Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post

So terrorist training camps sponsored by Hussein weren't in Iraq, and the people our soldiers have been fighting just moved in after they got there? Al Queda as I understand it is a federation of terrorists linked by the common goal of the destroying Israel and the US. I don't buy that Hussein had nothing to do with them. I guess I'd be one of those who are ignorant enough to believe a country harboring and training terrorists was partly responsible for 9-11.
Too simplistic. We started fighing those loyal to Hussein. Foreign fighters soon joined in against American troops. Al Queda and others joined in. Others sponsered by Syria and Iran joined in, possibly others. Now a big mess.

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A bit of an oversimplification if you're saying Al Queda was only in Afghanistan. Fact is they may have had the leaders of some factions hiding there but they're scattered throughout the middle east, Iran, Iraq, and even in those countries who are our 'friends'. It's not quite as simple as cleaning up Afghanistan and you're done. If it were that straightforward why didn't they do it? The greatest victory any modern day President could claim is vctory over the middle eastern terrorists.
No, not what I was saying. The people who were DIRECTLY responsible for the 9/11 attacks were based in Afganistan. Yes, Al Queda and their allies are elsewhere (Sudan, Indonesia, etc.). I agree (****, stop making me do that!) it is not as simple as cleaning up Afganistan and we are done. Clean up Afganistan and you are done in Afganistan, time to move on to clean up elsewhere. Most likely, we are doing some of that clean up now, but much more quietly.

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I suppose your theory is the Bush administration is so corrupt and evil they just wanted to beat up on Iraq for no reason other than to distract the American public while leaving the real enemy in Afghanistan. Sorry I ain't buying that. It would be nice if Afghanistan housed the only real enemy.

My theory is that we'll never know the real reason the Bush administration went into Iraq. We do know that all the reasons they stated just prior to the war were either trumped up or out right wrong.


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What people just can't seem to get is once the Iraqi "mess" is "cleaned up" that's far from the end of it. ....
Agree again. Worled peas must be next....

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OB's gonna open dialogue with them, Hillary'll be too busy quashing the vast right wing conspiracy to bother with them,
No. Obama said that he would open a dialog with Iran, and other countries. Bush has also agreed to some talks with those folks. NO ONE has said they would talk to terrorists.

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Sure wish I had the answers.
Wish someone had the answers and would make it happen.

Andrew