Reverand Wright/obama

[DJD]

Yep, this has to be his undoing. These guy's (BO and his campain team)will lose some White votes over this and that was alot of what they were counting on. Especially if HC and BO keep slugging it out! More and more dirt will come out and you don't know what mean is until you back HC into a corner.

[Col Forbin]

I don't think this is as big a deal as you think. The only people I have heard offended or concerned about this, is our die-hard republicans. I think you all are searching for reasons not to like him.

[MsgMills]

You've got to be kidding, when the Preacher's Sermon Title is and I quote..." God **** America" Then anyone associated with this church has truly shown their true color.... The video shows the whole congregation cheering and clapping to the words from the Preacher's mouth. Blames 9/11 for happening, because we nuked Japan.....Come on Japan struck 1st Blood against the USA, we only got their attention and they gave up..... Same thing needs to happen to Iraq and anyone else who spills blood of USA people on American Soil.....

Sorry Col. but I guess you are voting for a nutcase for sure......

[Col Forbin]

Sorry Col. but I guess you are voting for a nutcase for sure......

I'm not voting for his preacher so he can say what he wants. Obama has never said anything that remotely resembles these sermons. Just because he goes to this church, doesn't mean he hangs on every word and takes 100% of the sermon to heart. Who knows there may be some really good aspects of his sermons too, or some great service this church provides to the community, but they will never get shown. Either way, I don't care. I've said it several times before, to me, religion has no relevance to politics. No - before anyone asks, I would not vote for him if he was a satin worshiper and ate babies on easter (it never fails, someone will ask). I just see this as something that has been greatly exaggerated and focused on, becuase there very few other negative aspects of Obama (especially when compared to our current president).

[Tyme2fish]

Quote for Col Folbin. "I just see this as something that has been greatly exaggerated and focused on, becuase there very few other negative aspects of Obama (especially when compared to our current president)."

The negative aspects for BO will be revealed once and IF he gains the nomination.
It almost makes me want to endorse Billary! Will maybe not that bad.

[RICHYD4U]

I'm not voting for his preacher so he can say what he wants. Obama has never said anything that remotely resembles these sermons. Just because he goes to this church, doesn't mean he hangs on every word and takes 100% of the sermon to heart. Who knows there may be some really good aspects of his sermons too, or some great service this church provides to the community, but they will never get shown. Either way, I don't care. I've said it several times before, to me, religion has no relevance to politics. No - before anyone asks, I would not vote for him if he was a satin worshiper and ate babies on easter (it never fails, someone will ask). I just see this as something that has been greatly exaggerated and focused on, becuase there very few other negative aspects of Obama (especially when compared to our current president).

KEV-
SO YOUR ARE SAYING THAT JUST A LITTLE "RACISM" OR "ANTI-AMERICAN" COMMENTS ARE OK AS LONG AS THEY DON'T CONSIST OF THE "BULK" OF WRIGHT'S SERMONS!? THAT'S CRAZY! YOU KNOW WHAT ANY GOD LOVING AMERICAN WOULD HAVE DONE THE VERY FIRST TIME THEY HEARD WRIGHT'S SLANDERINGS OF AMERICA.......GOT THE @#$% OUT OF THERE! WHO CONTINUES TO ATTEND HIS CHURCH FOR 20+ YRS! BO DID! THAT GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT HE WASN'T OFFENDED BY WHAT WAS BEING SAID. IN FACT, HE ENJOYED WRIGHT SO MUCH HE HAD HIM MARRY HIM AND HIS WIFE, BAPTIZE HIS KID(S) AND SO ON. THIS IS THE SAME REVERAND THAT CALLED FARAHKAN A "GREAT MAN".........LMAO!

I AGREE ON THE FACT THAT RELIGION SHOULD NOT PLAY A ROLE IN ELECTIONS....BUT WHEN YOUR RELIGION FOCUSES ON GOVERNMENT AND SOCIAL ISSUES, AND IS FLAT OUT RACIST....I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THERE ARE SEVERAL NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF BO, THIS ISN'T HIS OWNLY DOWNFALL! HE'S INEXPERIENCED IN EVERY ASPECT OF GOVERNMENT, HE HAS NO PLANS TO FULFILL ANYTHING HE HAS TALKED ABOUT, HE'S A DEM (HA!)....CAN I GO ON! THIS GUY IS LIKE A FART IN THE WIND....HE WILL PASS WITH TIME!

AND NO, I WILL NOT ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD VOTE FOR A SATANIST! LOL!

FISHING IS ON! PLANNING ON HITTING JOHNATHAN CREEK THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL..................CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAGD~

[RoadToad]

I don't think this is as big a deal as you think. The only people I have heard offended or concerned about this, is our die-hard republicans. I think you all are searching for reasons not to like him.

If you haven't heard from any liberals offended by Rev. Wright's comments, then let me be the first. But I'd like to give Obama a pass on this, because I don't want to see his church be part of the debate. And I'm glad he has come out and said clearly that he disagrees with Rev. Wright's hateful rhetoric. But when Obama compares Rev. Wright to a "crazy uncle" who says things you disagree with, it rings a little hollow to me, considering that Obama took the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope," from one of Rev. Wright's sermons, and it was Rev. Wright who married Barack and Michelle Obama. And then I think back to Michelle Obama's comment that "for the first time in my adult life, I'm really proud of my country," (and yes I saw her "clarification," which clarified exactly nothing) and I can't help but think that what she said gibes pretty well with some of Wright's statements. Obama can say he disagrees all day long, but he does say he has "strong ties" to his church, and who is closer to a man than his wife? I really do want to accept Obama's disavowals, but I'm having a hard time doing it. At the very least, I think Obama made a serious tactical error by not putting all of this to bed long ago.

Oh well, nobody even remembers that David Duke supported Ronald Reagan, so maybe this isn't such a big deal.

[TimE]

I don't think this is as big a deal as you think. The only people I have heard offended or concerned about this, is our die-hard republicans. I think you all are searching for reasons not to like him.


#9 02-23-2008, 08:27 PM
Col Forbin
Moderator Location: Kentucky Lake
Posts: 323

Re: Really No Choice...

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Sure this will get cut by the administator. Why I wont vote for Obamah, he's not white! A woman president? wonder why my daughter ever went to a university, that suma cum laude degree looks good on paper, and gee it was in math, and computer science, not dish washing and cooking.I'm sure every one will say, hey Larry is a racist! no I just tell it like it is. My platoon sargent had two silver stars from korea, I knew that man could do anything he wanted, except die for his country, then he would have got the CMH.

I find this to be pretty racist and offensive. If you can't back your political stance without bringing race into the picture - you shouldn't be voting. I am all for good political debates - but I think this is crossing the line.

Double standard?Obama is a racist,otherwise he wouldn't have been a member of a racist group (church) for over 15yrs..

Dude you are so far out there that Rev. Wright couldn't reel you in.
Obama is done,hard to get elected when you are a member of a racist group unless its Chicago.

[apb]

Pat Roberson and Jerry Falwell were both supporters of various republican presidents/candidates. Anyone have a problem with their comments on 9-11 or other various issues?

Col. it seems to be that the repubs are ascared. Someone might actually beat McCain, so they gotta start their Carl Rove dirty tricks early. And hey, wasn't McCain the guy who is unstable, turned on his fellow POW's to get better treatment, etc. Can't be wrong cause Mr. Bush and co said it.

Yes, I'm being very sarcastic in the last 2 sentences.

Andrew

[Col Forbin]

Double standard?Obama is a racist,otherwise he wouldn't have been a member of a racist group (church) for over 15yrs..

Dude you are so far out there that Rev. Wright couldn't reel you in.
Obama is done,hard to get elected when you are a member of a racist group unless its Chicago.

I still have yet to hear Obama make any racist remarks[/B]. (that period was supposed to be in bold). I have never, and none of you have have ever heard a negaitve racial comment spoken from Obama - Why, because he is not racist. Now if Obama starts making comments that are racist - then I will be here agreeing with you guys. I agree - this preacher is out there, a little radical, and I definintely would not be a part of his church. I think calling Obama a racist because his preacher has made some crazy comments is insane.

[Devils Horse]

Col, glad to see you step up and admit his religion is relevant after all (but really it isn't unless baby eating is involved). Your attempt to dodge questions before they're even asked shows you're making progress. Slow and painful, but progress. BTW, even if OB were deep in his heart a racist, as BS aside most people are to some degree, I'm figgering he's prolly smart enough not to say it. While I'm at it, who the heck is Col Forbin? Is it some kind of code? Someone you know or admire? Phish's Gamehendge character? What?

Andrew, it seems you notice the frightened Republicans playing dirty tricks on your guy, but fail to notice Hillary, BO, CNN (Commie News Network), and the rest of the liberal media BBQing conservatives. Guess they're only dirty tricks when you want them to be.

I don't need any reason to dislike his agenda other than the fact BO is the most liberal politician this side of San Francisco. (I'll go way out on a limb here and assume he has an agenda other than of course oft mentioned CHANGE.) I find his endorsement by Ted Kennedy more abhorent than his membership in a racist church and it's idiot pastor. IMO, Barack Hussein Obama is simply not President of the United States material, the very thought of him as Commander-in-Chief makes me cringe. Sorry, folks his middle name just sorta slipped out.

It is nice to know the enlightened among us wouldn't vote for him if he were a devil worshiper or baby eater though. Gotta draw the line somewhere, after all enlightenment only goes so far.

Finally, I'll say this to all you squares, fuddy duddies, and narrow minded people out there. Once and for all, OB is not a racist, neither is his pastor, and and neither is Hillary. You can only be a racist in America if you're a white male. Get that through your thick heads, and don't make me say it again.

[DJD]

I still have yet to hear Obama make any racist remarks[/B]. (that period was supposed to be in bold). I have never, and none of you have have ever heard a negaitve racial comment spoken from Obama - Why, because he is not racist. Now if Obama starts making comments that are racist - then I will be here agreeing with you guys. I agree - this preacher is out there, a little radical, and I definintely would not be a part of his church. I think calling Obama a racist because his preacher has made some crazy comments is insane.

Col,
I KNOW your smart enough to realize that he cannot say anything racist in public so that stops that argument in it's tracks. BTW...He did mention at a recent debate when asked if he considers Bill Clinton the first black Presidient...he said (can't quote it word for word) well, until I see him dance as well as other things (what's that mean?) I couldn't comment if he was a brother or not. Maybe not racist but let a White candidate say that and see what hapens.
Anyway, why can't the american public make a decision on this guy by who he hangs with? Is he off limits because he is Black?
Don't we all do that in everyday life? We do it with our kids, friends and family then why not our political leaders? I mean we don't associate with people we don't like do we? Do you? The answer is no. We invite friends and associates into our circle of friends because we agree on alot of things.
I know if I asked my Pastor to marry me it would be because I love the Church and respect the Pastor. He cannot distance himself from this the Republicans won't let go that's the way this works.