Reverand Wright/obama

[Devils Horse]

I knew you wouldn't give up and throw in the towel, JCB. Good job.

Believe it or not I understand how the whole DWB back and forth went. The distinction between the situations is clear and easy to follow. I was intentionally obtuse just to rattle your cage and be contrary.

Look, I don't need to travel to your mom's town in MS. I'm likely nearer to your mother's age than yours, and was born and raised in Roanoke, Alabama. I have close relatives in Biloxi. I've lived the life and heard all the stories. I get it. Okay?

You also need to open up and look around. I've been in almost every state in this country, and as a general rule there is just as much, if not more black racism as there is white. That's not stories people have told me, or from watching the idiot box, that's from personal experience and observation.

You say blacks still aren't allowed in some church, and that simply is not true. Would they be welcome? About as welcome as you'd be if you tried to join Mr. Wright's church.

The CJE who said that to your brother can't stop blacks from living in that county. Would blacks be welcome and treated well? About as well as you'd be treated if you got yourself an apartment in Harlem.

Don't get prejudice confused with discrimination. Discrimination is illegal, but the government cannot make people like each other. Try to remember that.

Quote//Which is the bigger problem: a systemic barrier to opportunity put in place by people with money and power, or some loony preacher with a small following in inner-city Chicago?//End quote

Are you serious? The systemic barrier you speak of is a myth! Are there some isolated cases of it? Yes, but in 99 per cent of America the vaunted systemic white barrier doesn't exist. The only place it exists is in the minds of black leaders shifting blame, politicians who'll fix it if you'll just vote for them, and those of you who've ingested years of their crap.

The possible president of this country has been closely associated with the so called loony old preacher for 20 years, and we should just blow that off?

[jcb]

"Believe it or not I understand how the whole DWB back and forth went. The distinction between the situations is clear and easy to follow. I was intentionally obtuse just to rattle your cage and be contrary."

Um....right.

"You say blacks still aren't allowed in some church, and that simply is not true."

Really? Tell me more about this church I know intimately and you know nothing about. My source is an uncle who goes there and told me of a black couple being told, after the service, that there was a church "that would be more to their liking" in a different part of town. Don't try to split hairs. Try to remember that.

"Would they be welcome? About as welcome as you'd be if you tried to join Mr. Wright's church."

Actually, in the video I saw from Wright's church, I saw a remarkable number of whites.

"The CJE who said that to your brother can't stop blacks from living in that county."

No, but they can burn a cross on their lawn, as they did a black family a couple months before my brother had this conversation.

"Are you serious? The systemic barrier you speak of is a myth! Are there some isolated cases of it? Yes, but in 99 per cent of America the vaunted systemic white barrier doesn't exist. The only place it exists is in the minds of black leaders shifting blame, politicians who'll fix it if you'll just vote for them, and those of you who've ingested years of their crap."

I haven't ingested anything. I've seen it. At least I got you to agree it exists. I just think you're way off on your estimate of how prevalent it is.

"The possible president of this country has been closely associated with the so called loony old preacher for 20 years, and we should just blow that off?"

Not sure who you're arguing against there, certainly not me. I wouldn't vote for OB - not so much because of Wright, but because he's way too liberal for my liking.