Union guys dont like loafers on jobs,and most good leaders want the companys to do what is right and get rid of them, legaly!I was going to say you would probably like to go back to the "company store" and other things , but I'm above that.I'm not even that old to remember those days.I'm not saying that all unions are and were perfect, just like anything else where us humans are involved, good intentions get ruined by a few, but those few are held up as an example to all. Yes jobs went over seas, and a lot of folks suffered and still suffer for that, but high wages are not the only culprit. There was a movie where the statement "greed is good" was made.A company that uses union workers cant compete with a compant that buys fro places where convict labor and children chained to machines is selling a product.I'm too old to get my blood pressure up about this stuff, and I've been retired for along time now, and am still lucky enough to have a small pension, and some help with my medical insurance, but those are not benefits that the company out of the goodness of its corporate heart granted, they were a negotiated thing, where both sides gave and took to work together.By the way another example held up to all is those high paid union leaders, I never got a pay check from the union, most smaller locals like ours was, would never even think about that. I went from being a chairmen to president of a small local, less than 500 folks, and at the end it was 5 of us, we didn't quit the union, Me and the guys just sais quit taking out dues, as far as I know there still might be a charter there, to a defuncked organization.