B&L aren't fishing shallow. They aren't seeing the fish that they are catching right now. The only fish that they are seeing is on their graphs. I watched them this last weekend on one spot. They pulled up next to a point. Casted out into 30 feet of water and within 5 minutes of pulling up had a 4.5 lb+ fish. Those guys are amazing. I was fishing a tourney and told them I didn't mind if they stopped and fished next to me, because it isn't every day that the best pull up next to you and pull one out. They are great fishermen and courteous as can be. They asked me if I was fishing a tournament, got ready to leave and I told them that they could fish there. It is my goal to contend with them. Forget all of this unbeatable nonsense. I want to beat B&L when they are at their best even if it is 20 years from now.