my old man reminds me all the time that "I hate T-vlle" because the first time I went, I did nothing but whine about going to Rough instead. 5th cast of my first trip was a 6 1/2#. I bought all the non sense of dead sea, no fish, stuff like that but it has quickly left and is my favorite place to fish other than Rough. Hope to go there Weds but the old man wants to try a few spots at Rough that we have never fished. I'm really eager to try it in the summer with all the traffic and whatnot. I THINK my pattern will do o.k. even with all the hoopla around there but if not, atleast I'll be casting and not working!!!