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    Obama was not born with a silver foot in his mouth like Bush! LOL\

    He knows what hard work is like and understand what it's like to be a regular citizen.

    If you put down the Senate then you are putting down McCain too!

    At least Obama will let people retire at 65 instead of 70 like McCain wants. And Obama will save social security for everyone.

    We can tax Bill Gates and Cheney more to save Social Security.. They won't miss the money!

    Unless you make over $200,000/year you won't have to worry about any income tax increase from the Obama Adm. You will be getting more money back on your taxes not paying more.

    Only those making more than $200,000/yr will pay more and that's OK by me and 95% fo the rest of Americans.





    Nevermind BO and every other ranking politician is rich and immune to their selfless efforts our behalf. Since they couldn't run it cost effectively, the Senate just privatized their dining room to save we taxpayers money. I just know they'll make sure the capitalist dogs running that outfit don't make an obscene profit.

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    I'm in favor of every tax break that's offered. Rich, poor, sales, whatever, as long as the government is giving people their money back, I'll support it.

    By the same token, I'm against every tax increase...no questions asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose1am View Post
    At least Obama will let people retire at 65 instead of 70 like McCain wants. And Obama will save social security for everyone.
    Last time I checked, people can retire whenever they want to. It's thinking like the above quote that has people following the government around like drones waiting to be told what to do with their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by know1 View Post
    Last time I checked, people can retire whenever they want to. It's thinking like the above quote that has people following the government around like drones waiting to be told what to do with their lives.
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    Regarding receiving your social security checks when you retire!

    There is nothing wrong at all about getting some social security for your retirement. In fact most folks are waiting to retire and get their social security checks after they reach 62 years old.

    It's thinking like yours that what wrong here. My thinking is just fine and dandy.

    You said the following:
    "Last time I checked, people can retire whenever they want to."

    Now you know well that not every can retire whenever they want to. That's really a false statement or should I say it's more like wishful thinking.

    Now if you have the money to retire and not work anymore , more power to you. But if you chose to retire before 62 you area still going to have to wait until you can get your social security checks.

    Bush would have you waiting until you were 70 years old before you start drawing on social security. Perhaps McBush will do follow Bush's policy on moving back the retirement age for social security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose1am View Post
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    Regarding receiving your social security checks when you retire!

    There is nothing wrong at all about getting some social security for your retirement. In fact most folks are waiting to retire and get their social security checks after they reach 62 years old.

    It's thinking like yours that what wrong here. My thinking is just fine and dandy.

    You said the following:
    "Last time I checked, people can retire whenever they want to."

    Now you know well that not every can retire whenever they want to. That's really a false statement or should I say it's more like wishful thinking.

    Now if you have the money to retire and not work anymore , more power to you. But if you chose to retire before 62 you area still going to have to wait until you can get your social security checks.

    Bush would have you waiting until you were 70 years old before you start drawing on social security. Perhaps McBush will do follow Bush's policy on moving back the retirement age for social security.
    Depending on social security checks for after-retirement funding is a risky proposition at best regardless of the retirement age. I wouldn't depend on the government to come thru on that, even though it is money that YOU contributed over your years of work service.

    You can retire at whatever age you wish. You just can't get social security checks until X age, whatever that is.

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    [QUOTE=Moose1am;329651]
    At least Obama will let people retire at 65 instead of 70 like McCain wants. And Obama will save social security for everyone. QUOTE]

    As a fact, last time I checked I have to wait as a minimum until the age of 67 to retire......The new age limits have been in effect back as far as 1993 or sooner....

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    Jim,
    Excellent but scary reading.

    Moose,
    Have you read Obama's Economic Plan? Can you explain how he can totally eliminate taxes for over 10 million people, reduce taxes for middle class, raise minimum wage each year as needed, double the funding for the after school programs, create a fund for foreclosure victims, regulate that small companies of 25 employees or more (from 50) enact the Family Medical Leave and whatever else and make this work? I don't see any of it working one idea works against the other. Oh yeah I forgot about Healthcare Reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Jim,
    Excellent but scary reading.

    Moose,
    Have you read Obama's Economic Plan? Can you explain how he can totally eliminate taxes for over 10 million people, reduce taxes for middle class, raise minimum wage each year as needed, double the funding for the after school programs, create a fund for foreclosure victims, regulate that small companies of 25 employees or more (from 50) enact the Family Medical Leave and whatever else and make this work? I don't see any of it working one idea works against the other. Oh yeah I forgot about Healthcare Reform.
    I am guessing that not spending the monthly billions in Iraq would be a start.

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    I dont remember who said it, that I was against the war.YES I am, the war in Iraq, the war in afganistan was and still is the right war. We could have won there if we made the commitment, now there is much doubt. My grandson did his tour in afgan., and is now on his tour of Iraq.The last letter sounded like he will give it up, and get out of the military. One thing he said still bugs me, his platoon sarge, after his tour of iraq, afganistan, had the good fortune to be sent to korea,less than two yrs state side in 10 yrs.
    I may be an old timer, and I know one thing about this country, once I voted on the merits of an individual, then we became fractioalized.Never can I recall as much division about politics, if it turns to hate, as it may, are we heading the same way that religeous differences have gone in other countrys.Yes I'm a dem, came from an area that leaned that way, and still does, but at least I did vote for a couple of reps in state elections. Moving here was an eye opener into the benefits of one party rule in an area.The one party ghets elected, does nothing, gets reelected, and does even less, and then claims they are for the common folks and cite their accomplishments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    I am guessing that not spending the monthly billions in Iraq would be a start.
    Exactly!

    3 or 4 TRILLION DOLLARS is a lot of money that's been wasted on Iraq.

    Money that could have been spent here at home on developing alternative energy resources for our country

    I hear today that there is now an electric car that can go 200 miles on one charge and can be recharged back up in 4 hours. And the batteries are much better now. And cheaper too.

    We are not seeing Iraq paying for the Iraq War with the Iraq oil money! Didn't YOUR MAN CHENEY promise that Iraqi Oil would pay for the Iraqi War. But the truth is that your man CHENEY reached into our back pockets to take our hard earned money to pay for the war in Iraq.

    And when it comes time to replace and repair all the used military equipment who's going to pay for that? You and me that's who. Iraqi's oil is selling on the market but somehow that's not meeting the worlds supply now. But we had plenty of oil for the world before the Iraq war.

    Is Cheney making money off the Iraqi War and who's getting the billions of dollars from the Sale of Iraqi Oil now? It use to be Saddam Hussein that got the Iraqi Oil Money. So who's getting it now. If Iraq is making money on their oil sales then why are we using US tax dollars to rebuild Iraq? Why are they not using their own money to rebuild the Iraq cities?

    Bush/Cheney is tax you to pay for the Iraqi War Folks.

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    Moose I am with you on your last post ...Just where to hell is the money going
    ? I wish my dear old departed dad had invested in oil stocks and ammunition factories cause my mom would not be worried about how to pay for her medications or groceries. Instead he invested in Anheiser Busch Oh wait a minute maybe we have stock somewhere after all cause looks like the last great vestige of an American company is leaving us too 45 BILLION for a brewery business . Dad, too bad you didn't get some stock certificates with all the Bud you bought over the years..

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    Moose I guess you have never heard of any " Little Johnny Jokes in your lifetime "

    I guess I should have stated that my last post about Hussein Obama was a joke, in case some people don't recognize a joke when they read one.....

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