Obama

[Devils Horse]

Hey all you commies, facists, and those in between. Much to my chagrin, the company's been working me like a rented mule and I haven't stopped in for a while.

Did anybody see Obama's speech last night after the SD and Mont primaries had been declared? That guy can stretch the least substance the farthest of any politician I've ever seen, bar absolutely none. The guy is a brilliant speech giver, a downright oratician (just made that one up, feel free to use it). He had them Minnesota gophers rolling around on the floor doing doggie tricks by the time he was done. If he could do 1/10 of what he says he can, heck even I'd vote for him and I can't stand his socialist agenda.

I'll be voting Rep, but I have to admit, the Obama/Clinton ticket's gonna be hard to beat considering the mood of the country and the collective IQ of all those new "freshly energized" voters.

[LarryG]

If you are that pleased with what is happening , vote for mcbush, time for a change, its more a protest thing .

[MsgMills]

If you are that pleased with what is happening , vote for mcbush, time for a change, its more a protest thing .

I see it now I voted for Obama as a punishment to the Republican side....Tell me this...do you want someone who has the vast knowledge to see this Country thru the muddy puddle it's in or let someone who has absolutely no experience into the Office and then Let the Democrats ( Namely B*^&^T*&^h Pelosi ) run the show for the next 4 years.... Wake up Dem's and smell the coffee.....

[DJD]

Welcome back DH,
I totally agree that BO is as slick as snot on a door knob when it comes to saying all things about nothing. Maybe I'm in denial but I can't see the Dems winning. The war is taking a turn for the better, the real discussions and debates will be taking place and that should show how BO is lacking in substance and the Hillary flocks are pissed. The Church debacle for BO will come out again and McCain will play both sides not to mention if he picks a great V.P. to boot!

[Devils Horse]

Change? Sure. I'm dying to see the Bush tax cuts repealed. Can't wait for the tax increases after that. Universal health care will really be great, I'm sure those evil insurance companies will foot the bill. Among many other pie in the sky promises, Obama's going to fix the 5% unemployment 'problem', make the oil companies invest their profits in other energy sources, and force the corporations to clean up pollution.

And of course step one is to stop using force with those highly rational folks in the middle east, and establish a dialogue with them. Let's talk Iran out of their nuclear development program, and while we're at it we can ask them real nice to stay out of Iraq, and stop training terrorists to blow up innocent people. No Larry, you keep swilling that change flavored kool aid, I'll pass.

It'll be interesting to see over the next few months how tired folks get of BO's hollow promises. I sure hope reality sets in and America doesn't re-elect Jimmy Carter reincarnated as a very smooth talking Chicago politician.

The guy can't even stand behind his pastor when the going gets rough, a guy he sees an an "uncle", the guy who performed his wedding. After 20 years he finally figures out his 'old uncle' is a wack job and throws him under the bus during his campaign. You gotta ask yourself...how well can this guy run this country? Say what you will about Bush, but he's stuck to his beliefs under the harshest of circumstances. Think BO would do the same?

I still support President Bush, and I don't want our soldiers to have died in vain because a pacifist huckster got elected president. I hope his seed of democracy takes hold over there, and the lilly-livered pols and others who've turned on him enjoy eating some serious crow.

Oh BTW, thanks Don. Ketcheninny?

[DJD]

Hey man, it's been on like Donkey Kong at a local club lake. Now the local Water Company has decided to lower the water so the bass in the grass bite has died, but it was great!
I did find a new love in Freshwater Fish! Carp! LOL I love the fight....(See Photo board.) These things fight like Redfish and look alot like them. Your probably due for a fishing trip huh? That work thing gets in the way of the best fishing of the year....nice cool Spring!

[LarryG]

the america that I know is not going to dry up and blow away because a black man might get elected president.If the reps would have tried to get Colin Powell to run, he would have been the peoples choice.This is still the countery that most of the world looks up to, and maybe we have strayed a little in the past 8 years, we still have more freedom, and opurtunity than any where else in the world.Maybe now we can try to solve some of our problems, and let the world fend for itself for a little while. No country on earth coulld ever invade and controll us. Many of us have served with blacks in the service, and went to schools with them, and know that they are as american as we are.

[Devils Horse]

Hey Don, I did get me a nice dolphin (mahi mahi) along with a mess of Vermillion Snapper (bee liners) and a couple of blues (sharkbait) down in Charleston, SC last week. The dolphin took a cigar minnow I was fishing topwater and jumped chest high 3 times during the struggle. Like to gave me a heart attack.

Larry, not sure why you keep bringing up the race issue, my problem with BO has nothing to do with what color he is. Seems every time, and I mean EVERY TIME we disagree with, or call to task a prominent black these days, the race card gets played.

Since I disagree with a black presidential candidate, I must be a racist, right? Well the presidency is important enough that hopefully the race card doesn't trump the facts this time.

America is not going to dry up and blow away if a black man is elected president, but making the Senator with the most liberal voting record in Washington President, be he black, white, or polka dotted ain't gonna help either.

[LarryG]

I'm not saying you're a racist, but race will be an issue in this race.So will religion, unfortunatly that is what the press will feature.If you think that bush did a good job, good for you, but he didn't make the government smaller, and more responsive, its exactly the opposite. I wish george well, I'd like him as a person, but as a president, he wasn't that good.

[Devils Horse]

Realities being what they are, race will be an issue. I just hope it doesn't obscure the real issues.

Certainly the Bush administration is not without it's faults, I can't remember one that wasn't. We can agree to disagree on how good of a job President Bush has done.

If you're old enough, compare the Carter administration to the Bush administration and see how they stack up. Carter's only up side was his forward thinking on energy. His economics had inflation raging and mortgage interest rates as high as 18%. His dialogue based foreign policies made us the laughing stock of the globe. Those fine folks in Iran Barack's so anxious to chat with held over 100 American citizens hostage for 444 days and Carter did absolutely nothing about it. I take that back, he finally after a year authorized a small undermanned mission that ended in the desert with crashed helicopters and dead American soldiers.

We should've put a Bush sized boot up the back of the Ayatolla's robe back then instead of trying to rationalize with those who want to kill instead of talk. If we had, there prolly would never have even been an Obama Bin Laden, and the World Trade Center towers would still be standing tall.

I point all this out because BO reminds me more of Jimmy Carter than any pol I've ever seen, except he's even more liberal than Jimmy is. Well, he is a different color, maybe that's the change the Dems are carrying on about.

[LarryG]

If you want to talk history, before carter, who was training savak? a part of Irans secret police. they used kidnapping, torture, and hit squads,and these thugs were trained here in the good ole USA for the Shah.We were busy sticking our noses into the middle east years before the embassy debacle.Eisenhauer warned us about getting involved in mid east politics, but who listened?Then we helped the rebels in afganistan throw out the russians, after that we helped iraq in the war with iran. What did we learn from britan and france from thier colonial policys in that part of the world? nothing!Yes carter was weak, we should have bombed the hell out of iran for that act of war, but we would have been fighting american trained pilots using american aircraft.I'm sorry, but democracy is a home grown thing, it can't be forced down someones throat by an out side power.Now about oil, I had an uncle who worked for aramco and spent 6 years in that part of the world. He retired at age 50 with a pension that even by todays standards was pretty darn good, hewaspaid a lot with stock in the aramco consortium, so our noses even helped start opec.

[Devils Horse]

Good enough points about the Shah. That said, we probably supported him in the name of stability in the region and of course oil. What country over there doesn't have kidnappers and death squads?

Let's keep it in perspective. You're talking about a society where they beat women legally, then go bounce their foreheads off the ground in the name of Allah. Mkay?

You're an old dude Larry, and your recall is pretty good, how can you still be a Dem supporter?

Democracy is not going to be a home grown thing if people are oppressed to the point they never have the chance. Iraq was/is a proactive measure, we can't just put our heads in the sand and pretend the middle east doesn't exist. Do you want more World Trade center bombings or worse?

Okay, you and many others oppose the war right? I assume by voting Obama you support pulling our troups out and bringing them home immediately. Then what? Open talks with Iran, sit back and wait to get hit again? Please BO supporters tell me what we do next, what's the plan?

Our soldiers are giving their lives and engaging the terrorists on their own soil. They've been too busy fighting our military there to hit us hard HERE. Why can't people get through their heads the war with middle eastern radicals is by all accounts going to be a long tough road? It can either be fought over there, or it can be fought in our country. Which do you choose?

Nevermind, your vote for the farthest left wing politician ever to run for president in U.S. history answers that one for me.