Sometimes mums the word. Found a spot on a lake once and there was some abandoned construction equiptment there, and it was completly by accident, took a buddy, who took a buddy, who on and on, finallyu some scuba nuts went there, and ruined for all of us. So if its a secret, keep it that way.I caught some nice bass out opf that spot, and one day in a local paper, there was the friend of a friend, with his picture in the paper, yep, he couldn't keep his mouth shut.