The wind has played a big part in my miniscual success, when it blows constantly (5-10mph) from the south/southwest I have been on the east side casting straight into it but I had to be on shallower drops as so I can use the "wind current" to my advantage. Dave what you said about the 2pm to 7pm is what I thought but didn't know, If I combine that with the release amounts of 40 cfpm as you said and apply it to the "scale" that BK posted with El's back-up it is starting to make alot of sense, like alot of guys I have had peices but didn't know how to put them together so... thanks guys!