Roadrunner why do you stretch the truth to the point that it's so obvious.

Do you really believe that they can build an oil rig in deep water and get it going in less than 10 years? Even the oil company exec say it takes 10 years to get the first drop of oil flowing.

Come on guy when you make claims like it only takes 1 1/2 years you loose any credibility that you had.

Ten years mate .... Ten years.....

And the effect of that oil flowing ten years later won't drop the price of gasoline more than 2 or 3 cents at most.

Now I heard the CEO of of one of the major oil companies telling the public in an TV interview that it takes them ten years to get the first oil out of the ground and to the refineries.

Perhaps you know more about oil building oil platforms in the Sea than the the CEO of that oil company? I seriously don't think so.

Russian is not planning on drilling off the coast of the USA. Even Cheney has admitted he started that rumor according to TIME MAGAZINE reporters. This was disputed on the Larry King Show. And Cheney started the China rumors too. All lies to distort the truth. Reminds me of the same lies that Cheney said about Mushroom clouds and Iraqi Ballistic Missiles striking the USA home land. All lies by Cheney and his political allies to get their way. The man has no honor. I don't believe anything that 5 deferment Cheney has to say anymore. He lost all credibility with me. And I use to think the guy was great when he was the Secretary of Def under Bush Sr during the first Gulf War. But I didn't know much about him back then.

Actually the high cost of food is caused by both the high prices of oil and the fact that most of the food corn is being used to make ethanol and that reduced the amount of corn used to make our food. When you decrease the supply and not the demand the price will go up in a free market. So you are only half right on this part of your post.

We all should agree that the cost of energy is too high.

Where we disagree is on how to reduce this cost for most Americans. Some rich folks don't care if gasoline cost $20/gallon. They have enough money they can still afford to buy gas at that price. And they won't have to worry about traffic jams as they will be the only folks that can afford to buy gas at those prices.

Global warming and protection of the environment can be accomplished while lowering the cost of energy if we turn to alternative and renewable energy sources such as wind, solar, geothermal, hydro and hydrogen fuel cell powers locomotives, trucks and cars.

Have you seen the commercial that T. Boon Pickens is running on TV. There is one smart oil man who has the right vision for the future. He is pushing using LNG which I support as part of the energy mix that we should be turning to now.



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We need to drill off shore this is where the great oil fields are located. We can be producing oil in 1 1/2 years. We also need to produce the oil shale regions in the west. This oil independence will stop the speculation almost immediately. When we talk off shore we are talking fifty miles off shore you will not even know they are there except when you run out there to fish around them.

50 miles is international waters and Russia has plans to drill off our shores and you can not stop them unless we drill first. We need to do this now but continue to develop alternative sources. High cost of fuel is what is driving your cost of food not the new ethanol plants. Think of the added cost of planting and harvesting, then transporting it to market then to the mill for grinding into flower then transporting it to the baker then transporting to warehouse then distribution to the grocery store. Every thing you buy is getting hit buy higher fuel cost.