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    Re: Oil, And Plenty Of It!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moose1am View Post
    I also worked at the refinery located in Robinson, IL. I worked with Young Insulation which did a lot of the work at that refinery. Without the insulation on the pipes that refinery would not have been able to continue to operate.

    And I know a thing or two about getting permits to construct new factories like refineries. You might find a name on a few of those permits that looks familiar to me.

    Believe me if Marathon wanted to build a new refinery they would be allowed to build it in a heart beat.

    Your statement about taking 20 years to get the permits is hogwash. Not sure who gave you that talking point but they don't have a clue as to what they are talking about.

    Obtaining a construction permit takes less than a year and they are easily obtained when the plant is designed to meet the Clean Air Act Requirements.



    Just recently a permit was issued to the refinery in Mt Vernon, IN to increase that refineries capacity. They had zero problems getting their construction and operating permits from IDEM APCD.

    You probably don't even know what APCD stand for do you?
    I agree with expansion permitting not being a problem but to pemit a new facility is a huge problem. That is why they are expanding all the existing plants.

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    Re: Oil, And Plenty Of It!

    Moose1am, I watched the same show you did on (I think) the History or Tru channel a few nights ago about DeBeers Diamond Mines. I didn't hear all the crap you posted about limiting the output of diamonds. I saw how they are mined, graded, faceted, and priced according to color. Anyone who knows "beans" about diamonds knows they are expensive. I own a couple of DeBeers diamonds and, frankly, it all boils down to buying a high quality brand name. A diamond doesn't change in quality just because it has some other name. Some companies will sell a lesser quality diamond which contains miniscule coal particles; some visible, some invisible to the naked eye because they fit better into the budget of the buyer. I just don't understand how the production of diamonds and the production of oil are related. The price of gas is relatively the same at independent stations as it is at 'big oil' stations. Not so with diamonds.

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