New painted plane

[Devils Horse]

That was a tough time for me Bobby. I swore to myself that if anything happened during the flight I'd be killed attacking rather than ride the plane down under their thumb. Sounds dramatic maybe, but if you were traveling back then it was something to think about. I still fly quite a bit, and still have that mindset to this day. I take note of every middle easterner I see on the plane.

Col, you insist on defending a culture who oppresses women cruelly as a matter of course, teaches hate and death from childhood on, believes that to kill others in the name of your god gets you a free ticket to heaven with 40 virgins waiting for you. (Now I'd settle for 20 experienced hookers, but that's just me)

What koolaid you been drinking brother? This is not isolated portions of the culture in the middle east, it's the majority. When some of our people get blown up, all those thousands of people I see on the news screen celebrating and burning US flags are just a few isolated Muslims? Countries supporting and producing animals who've been slaughtering innocent people since before you were born is just a few bad ones? For crying out loud, comparing Muslims to McVey is one of the silliest comments I've ever heard. And you had the nerve to call my comments absurd...good grief.

I don't want this country to become like Israel or Beirut where cars exploding outside cafes are commonplace. Who's doing the bombing? Why the few isolated small minority of your buddies, that's who. It danged sure ain't the Mcveys of the world.

Muslims (Only small isolated numbers of them of course) have terrorized the entire civilized world since I can remember, and you want to embrace them right into our country.

And people like you call people like me ignorant. Amazing...absolutely amazing.

[Col Forbin]

When you harbor negative views on an entire group of people based on ethnicity - you are a racist. Plain and simple, there is no way of sugar coating it. There are bad people in this world of all backgrounds. Maybe we should start focusing on understanding other cultures and learning from them, rather than trying to make them all look and act like what we see as right.

[Bobby Headrick]

Yes it was tough for me and my fiance also. She lost her job due to 9/11. She was a Corp Travel excutive, her clients were some of the most powerful and prestigos men in the US. She was based out of Houston Tx, and her clients were all BIG business men. I cannot name the co's she handled but I can say that if some knew what I know about Bush and Cheny and their Texas/big business pals then you would not support him. Cannot say any more. But we went from almost 100K a yr to now 48K combined due to the terrosits from SAudie Arabia. I am not pregitous but after what I experenced that day at Ohare int airport made me afraid, I was on an American airlines flight, full of fuel and passed the Sears tower 3 times before landing, by the way the Sears towers were also on the hit list, but I think due to severe weather in the area that day that they might have had to pospone their attack. It makes me wonder. These 5 guys were all in the lobby together but then they sat sept. One was right outside the cabin door, The only reason I watched them was that they were acting strange, but after the attack I put two and two together. Whew it was close. After working in corrections for 5 yrs I tend to pick up on things that are not koshar, these dudes just were that. Thanks Devil Horse, but I do not fly no more and won't, that was just too close.

[Devils Horse]

Can't blame you Bobby I wouldn't mind staying grounded myself, but that ain't in the cards for me yet.

Okay, Col good enough, I'll assume you're ready to take the gloves off.

Thanks for the lecture and oversimplified definition of the label you've hung on me. Now I'll save the sugar and say this:

When you're so blinded by naivete and empty idealism you can't see the obvious in front of you--you are a fool. If you can defend and embrace a culture of oppression and murder there's just no other way to put it. Plain and simple.