Illegal Immigrants and the Selective Service

[DJD]

FYI...Think of the millions of immigrant men that come into the USA illegally who might want to serve (or not) or get an education through the Armed Forces. Once they get into the system they can be a part of our country and not just reap the benefits of all this country has fought for, specifically freedom.

In addition, they will have to sign up like all legal american men (they are required now but that ain't gonna happen) when they come of age (18) for the selective service. According to the laws anyone applying for student loans and federals grants plus some other programs will need to be registered. Not sure if getting a Drivers License is a way of getting men registered.

I remember doing it when I turned 18!

[Cobra190]

Why would they. Coming to the U.S. for most of them is to get what they can and go back and live comfortably at home. There is no thoughts as far as what they can do for the U.S.A. They have already recieved in alot of ways whatever they have demanded. Why should they stick their neck out. It would save the U.S. millions in transport fuel cost alone if they were in the military. Could you imagine how many more of these folks you could fit into APC. If you can get 15 of them in a mini van, just imagine. lol
(No offence intended to any illegals who frequent this site)

[Bobby Headrick]

And they could pay for the child support for the babys they leave behind, and repay the food stamp program and medical programs. But the only thing they love about this country is that we are not doing enough to stop them from coming here, they are really hurting or economy by not paying taxes etc.If they want citizenship then they should be required to serve in our military. I also had to reg at 18. They have more rights than citizens at this time and nothing is being done or said about this. Something has to be done, homeland security what a joke and the border patrol ads. Some of these illegals have ties to organized crime and waring factions from Central and South America. Question Should they be considered terror suspects? The drug problems have increased steadly and so has violent crime. We are losing our country and no one seems to care.

[zx150]

If they try to close the borders then the liberals and ACLU and haven knows who else will get everything tied up in the courts. The media will show some guy working to take care of his family and put a one sided picture on it and then we are wrong for wanting to keep our country safe.

I have a cousin that works for INS and he said that they are so undermanned they would need to hire an army of people to do the job correctly. But with gov. cut backs they have to do more with less (like everyone else) and there are just not enough people to do the job.

Sad but, our security, health care and education are limited because we are spending so much on the people who are not citizens. Take care of us first and then worry about others. It may seem a little cruel but #1 comes first. If you don't like it move over there and help them yourself. Ryan

[zx150]

I almost forgot why should we have to learn Spanish? Learn English or get out. I was watching a cartoon with my daughter called Handy Manny, they use quite a bit of Spanish in the cartoon. I don't think that is right.

Is it just me over reacting? Ryan

[DJD]

I really don't have a problem with Immigrants because we all came from them. I like the idea of all Immigrants being legal tax paying citizens so they actually pay their own way just like you and I.
Learning Spanish is an option and should never be Mandatory but I would say that it's a good idea to pick up some of the language since it will come in handy...I assure you.
Bobby and Ryan...I bet you guys first hand accounts of the trouble we are really in with this problem.

[wishniwasfishn]

Yes all of us were immigrants at one time, but the immigrants in the past learned our language, lived by our laws, took care of their families, feverently wanted to become citizens of this great country, went to college, raised their families to become hard working, tax paying citizens. Immigrants now want everything handed to them, free money, free medical care, free food, and all the time smuggling drugs, raping, killing, the list goes on and on. I am not saying they are all like that, but with the estimated 25 million illegals here, if only 20% are bad, thats 5 million criminals in this country walking around scott free daily, while we the middle class takes care of their sorry @#@@#. Look at the fuel, food, jobs that they are taking away from the people that do want to work. The whole time this goes on the liberals are loving every minute of it. I went to arizona for training, and they have a thing there called anchor babies, basically a illegal immigrant waits until they are ready to give birth, crossed the border, has baby, baby is citizen, gets immediate welfare, and the parents live comfortably, and the democrats have another voter. The boiling pot so to speak is full, and running over, its time to put up fences, if you want to come over, fine, serve in the military for 4 years, learn the language, the laws, and fight if necessary for the country, and pay your taxes. If you last 4 years without getting into trouble, you deserve to become a citizen of these great united states, if not you go back to where you came, and you arent welcome back. Sorry for the rant, its just getting pitiful in this country, and just think my father fought two wars for this country, served 24 years in the military, and when he died, they sent 1 guy to the funeral with a tape recorder to play taps, makes you proud.

[know1]

I think we should make it very simple, easy and free to become a citizen if someone wants to. That would eliminate the problem of them being called "illegal" and we could start dealing with the real issues. I respect people who want to come here and work hard at jobs that aren't much fun. There are a lot of so-called Americans that could learn lessons from them.

[Col Forbin]

I think we should make it very simple, easy and free to become a citizen if someone wants to. That would eliminate the problem of them being called "illegal" and we could start dealing with the real issues. I respect people who want to come here and work hard at jobs that aren't much fun. There are a lot of so-called Americans that could learn lessons from them.

I totally agree with Know1 here. I know the spanish speaking students I have worked with in the past are the best students in the class. They are thrilled to have the opportunity for a quality education. I don't see how it can be considered a bad thing to learn another language.

[DJD]

I totally agree with Know1 here. I know the spanish speaking students I have worked with in the past are the best students in the class. They are thrilled to have the opportunity for a quality education. I don't see how it can be considered a bad thing to learn another language.

Just another point of view, my sister has many spanish speaking kids in her 4th grade class in Orlando Florida and there are some aweful spanish speaking kids in her class with the parents being worse. It gets tough on the rest of the kids because she has to spend more time with kids who should be able to communicate better. I don't have a problem with learning another language just don't shove it down our throats as it is being done now.

Want a "in your face lesson"? Go to south Florida (maybe even south Texas, Arizona, California) and see how many signs on the front of stores are written in spanish only. Down there you have Hispanic officials who naturally lean toward their voting base.

[wishniwasfishn]

I wonder who the great politician came up with if you are born here from foreign parents, you are a citizen? i was born in germany because my father was in the military, i am not an german, or do i have any rights what so ever if i go over there. Most american politicians have no backbones, if they did they would stop all this crap.

[zx150]

[QUOTE=DJD;336433]Just another point of view, my sister has many spanish speaking kids in her 4th grade class in Orlando Florida and there are some aweful spanish speaking kids in her class with the parents being worse. It gets tough on the rest of the kids because she has to spend more time with kids who should be able to communicate better. I don't have a problem with learning another language just don't shove it down our throats as it is being done now.

You are 100% correct I would love to speak Spanish but don't force me to. Force them to. It would be very helpful when you have to confront several of them and no one speaks English. But, when you get the cuffs out their English improves and you get the point across. Amazing how it works. Ryan