well one was 19in and the other was 24 inches long ... went this morning bite was a little slow on top water frogs. as soon as the daylight broke the fish turned on. caught several small ones and my buddy caught a nice 17 incher figured to be about 3lbs. as the day wore on we switched to black lizards fishing weed beds in the middle of the lake(loon pit). caught a few more fish and called it quits once the sun started to fry us. it was a good day i think for being slow all summer. i mainly fish blue grass pit to answer ur question.