we would have too teach a whole lot of lessons!!! lol just wait until the sauger run gets going, youll have to beat them off with a bat. hey any of you guys ever have a back seat open for one of those friday nighters let me know. i have a few spots that we have found in the last year or so in between the hydros and salt river. two weeks ago we caught a 40# and two 30's or so and numerous 5-15 pounders and have been picking up a few hybrids real early and late. only problem is i cant find any shad!! on the way back to greenwood i hit a log and took a chunk out of the prop so it will be a few weeks before i can replace it.