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Hope this link will work so the people voting for Obama can see first hand about him....This guy tells it like it is and shame on the media for trying to slam Palin's daughter over getting pregnant at 18.... When in "Fact" Obama's momma got pregnant with Barry Obama when she was only 17.......
Copy and paste this web address and listen to this man...he should open up all your Obama lovin eyes.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4-TZspqlOs
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This guy is an idiot. Defend one side and knock on the other for the same thing.Originally Posted by MsgMills
I never though any less of Palin or her Daughter for getting pregnant. Kids make mistakes. This is not near the circus as it would have been if the roles were reversed. The conservative right would have had a field day spewing thier morals, religious and ethical views in our face had it been the daughter of a liberal that was in the same situation. I can hear it now the lack of morals that liberals have lead directly to this.
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MsgMills you should just go play in the street or something because you bring nothing to any argument when you post. Seriously if you like that kind of slander/talk coming from either side then something is wrong with you.
Not once has Palin's daughter being pregnant been brought into the arguments posted in this thread and I could care less about her being pregnant myself.
Now back to the topic and away from the soap opera.
DJD here's a well written Palin story that shows she is a little more of a typical politician than you give her credit for and points out a few other interesting things.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
Also DJD I'm glad you found a VP that fits in with your views but I see most of them having little place in politics myself. JMHO
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Re: Palin on the Charlie Gibson interview
I'm smart enough to know a phony Puppet when I see and hear one trying to be elected as my new President......Now take that to your street and play with it.......hagd
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Pontooner,
Well written? It's lies and slander from the NY Times I couldn't even finish reading that garbage. Those Liberal articles are junk and I know you realize that but nice try.
Obama is even more guilty of these favors but we will get to that oneday or on another thread. Thats what politicians do they take care of their own. No matter what side on the fence your on.
Thanks for your approval of my decision on supporting Palin I'm sure you will find something to believe in as well.
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Direct quotes from people who know her, worked for her...... are lies and slander? Some quotes are even from people in her own party you know?
How do you suggest we go about learning about the cadidates? Tin cans and a string?
Using the words "your approval" is rather condescending don't you think? I was just pointing out that I don't think some of ihe issues the Pubs use to get elected should even be in the political realm of things.
I believe in change!
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You got change coming my mislead brother and it's the Liberal movement coming off at the wheels. You will learn oneday that just because it's in print don't make it true. Consider the source....as I do on here.**smile**
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At least Palin's daughter is going to have her baby instead of killing it. To quote BO "If one of my daughters makes a mistake, she shouldn't be punished with a baby". Punished, that's the word he used. A direct quote I heard with my own ears. Were his daughter old enough and in the same position, you'd never have heard anything about it, because his grandchild would've been quietly scraped out of the womb.
How about when BO's senate opponent criticized him for supporting sex education for elementary schoolers and Obama made fun of him? Said it (reading books about 2 young princes falling in love with each other to second graders) is the right thing to do. You can read a homosexual love story in school, but aren't allowed to say a prayer? Rationalize that one for me...go ahead, I dare you.
Liberals are big on making fun of those who disagree with their ideology, painting them as being stupid, hateful, and backward. Newsflash: The lion's share of normal hard working Americans are conservative and believe children are a blessing instead of a punishment. Most believe the social engineering load of crap dealt in public schools is hogwash too. The majority are also smart enough to see through BO's blatantly socialist agenda, and you'll be finding that out come November.
Spare me the criticism of Sara Palin, she's twice the man BO will ever be, and McCain's is by 10 times over. I've heard change ad nauseum from the Obama campaign, when the only TRUE change for Washington is Sara Palin. So what if she didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was? Barack Obama doesn't even understand basic capitalist economics, and he's the candidate for president, not vice president. Besides, Palin handled Charlie Gibson just fine, and she didn't need a teleprompter to do it. I loved it when he tried to act like a journalist, boring in with the same question 3 straight times. She played him like a dime store fiddle. He's lucky she didn't snatch him out of his lightweight loafers and field dress him like a moose.
Spare yourself the personal attacks on other posters such as MsgMills, Pontooner lest you piss some people off. His opinions bring every bit as much to the table as yours do. Go play in the street? Did you read one a them books without pichers to come up with that witty rejoinder?
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Devils Horse I'm not even going to get into who belives what is right or wrong because that's where you are trying to take things and it would be a no win situation for either of us.
Did you watch the video MSGMills posted?
What exactaly did it bring to the dissusion? Children have no say in what their parents do, say, actions............. and that video was a attack on something Obama had no control over. If anything it should be inspiring to see where Obama came from and where he is now.
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No I didn't watch the video, so I can't comment on its relevance. I don't have a problem with you disagreeing that Mills' post bore any relevance, but I chafe over the tactics of scorn. The tactics so often used by liberal elitists BTW. Telling him he never contributes anything constructive and to go play in the street falls directly into that category.
Maybe debating right or wrong is a dead end, but what one believes is right or wrong is the biggest part of making a decision.
My point about the homosexual love book and prayer makes me sound like someone zealous about religion. Not so, but I can certainly see right from wrong. It's parents' responsibility to teach their children social values, not the schools' or government's. We pay taxes to have schools teach our children 'the 3 R's', not Heather Has Two Mommies.
That's one of the fundamental differences between liberals and conservatives, libs want the government to take care of us all and conservatives favor all of us taking care of ourselves. I happen to agree more with the conservative position.
I believe in correct change!
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Devils Horse my friend if you would be so kind as to watch that video and get back to me on what you thought of it I would appreciate it. I would have posted the same thing if it was some crazed man on a vicious rant about Palin.
Sorry but I have little tolerance for stuff like that and anyone who belives it would be a "eye awakening" experenice as MSGMills stated. If that makes me a elitists, then so be it.
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Sorry I could only take a minute of it. Drivel.
Still doesn't invalidate Mill's opinion, or that he should be able to state it without being attacked.
For the record I didn't call you an elitist, I said the tactics of scorn were favored by them. I like to dance good as the next guy, but try to avoid directly calling people names.
None of us are going to really change others' fundamental beliefs or minds that are already made up, but it is a lot of fun to have heated debates about it.
Now back to the issue at hand.
I'm tired of Ivy League educated politicians with the New England Yankee mentality deciding how the country should be run. Sara Palin is the true change, BO's mantra is basically just hollow rhetoric. The woman performed a marriage ceremony for a couple of associates at freakin Wal Mart for cryin out loud! Now THAT is my kind of politician. Someone who can truly relate to common people as opposed to super rich lawyers who just talk about it.
Barack Obama is a rich socialist (borderline communist) politician who will tell you anything you want to hear. I may be a fool for believing it, but Palin is for real. Cynical as I am, I'm more excited about her than anyone since Ronald Reagan. That she hunts, fishes, and is a damned fine looking woman is just icing on the cake.
Futhermore how naive do you have to be to believe heavily taxing the companies we all work for, the oil companies we all buy gas from, and redistributing the wealth of the rich is the answer? If you hit the lotto, do you want BO to leave you maybe 250k or so and take the rest for the government to spend? Answer that one for me honestly.
Let's say you bust your hiney for years and finally start making some serious money only to find you're in a 45 or 50% tax bracket. Yes, the federal government is going to take YOUR money that you earned fair and square, waste most of it, and give the rest to other people. Do you honestly believe this country will remain great under that kind of system? If so, take a minute and explain how that can be.
IMO Obama is peddling socialism, a concept that has been proven again and again to fail. I don't get why that is so hard for people on the BO bandwagon to understand.
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