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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by pontooner View Post
    Of course he's going to try and fix what he said yesterday (said it twice at two different rallies) just like any poltican would that was catching flack over something they said.
    Well now ain't this just the pot calling the kettle black...I believe Obama has made the same gaff during his interviews...Has said it twice now during an interview that he is muslim, er...I mean Christian is my religion....Been caught saying it, so we all are right in him being a Muslim....Period......

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by MsgMills View Post
    Well now ain't this just the pot calling the kettle black...I believe Obama has made the same gaff during his interviews...Has said it twice now during an interview that he is muslim, er...I mean Christian is my religion....Been caught saying it, so we all are right in him being a Muslim....Period......
    The only places I have heard this was on stuff that has been proven untrue on snopes.com. Just in emails and stuff that the unintelligent (I am in no way inferring that all conservatives are dumb, just a handfull) extreme right like to send to each other in order to avoid discussing or learning about real issues. Wait...remember he turned his back on the pledge too....and before we get into the religion discussion, I am going to go ahead and state; he does not eat babies.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    The only places I have heard this was on stuff that has been proven untrue on snopes.com. Just in emails and stuff that the unintelligent (I am in no way inferring that all conservatives are dumb, just a handfull) extreme right like to send to each other in order to avoid discussing or learning about real issues. Wait...remember he turned his back on the pledge too....and before we get into the religion discussion, I am going to go ahead and state; he does not eat babies.
    Wrong, you van watch the entire interview on Youtube and it's authentic too. He said it alright.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Wrong, you van watch the entire interview on Youtube and it's authentic too. He said it alright.
    If you watch the snippet on you tube (not the entire interview) the quote is misleading and taken out of context. If Obama was truely Muslim, much more would be made of this, other than the few snippets and mis-quotes from interviews.

    Aside from that, I have said before, and will say again; I don't care how anyone chooses to spend the Sundays, Saturdays, or the time set aside for prayer 5 times a day, or if someone chooses not to participate with any religious sect. I have good friends that are Christian, Jewish, and Muslim and none of them are any better of a person than the other.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    If you watch the snippet on you tube (not the entire interview) the quote is misleading and taken out of context. If Obama was truely Muslim, much more would be made of this, other than the few snippets and mis-quotes from interviews.

    Aside from that, I have said before, and will say again; I don't care how anyone chooses to spend the Sundays, Saturdays, or the time set aside for prayer 5 times a day, or if someone chooses not to participate with any religious sect. I have good friends that are Christian, Jewish, and Muslim and none of them are any better of a person than the other.
    Col you certainly have a right to your own opinion and I will always resect that. For me it was plain and simple he spit it right out and I'm convinced of it. You can call me a dumb redneck if you want but I want to make myself real clear on this one. I DO NOT NOR DO I KNOW ANYONE WHO WANTS A MUSLIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE. That so called religion is completely WHACKED beyond belief, and for me is nothing more than Hatred towards others that don't agree with their bizzarre ways.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by MsgMills View Post
    Well now ain't this just the pot calling the kettle black...I believe Obama has made the same gaff during his interviews...Has said it twice now during an interview that he is muslim, er...I mean Christian is my religion....Been caught saying it, so we all are right in him being a Muslim....Period......

    What are you crying about? I said he was trying to fix it just like any poltician would. Whether you belive the orginal statement of the fixed version is you choice.

    See the on going "Palin on the Gibson interview" post about the "my Muslim faith" comment because I not rehashing it again.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    When McCain talks to one group he talks about major re-structuring of fundamental government programs. To another group he talks of turning these programs over to the private sector. Two completely different strategies.

    The Bush philosophy of tax cuts for all to boost the economy has been proven to be a complete failure. Actually the last tax credits, put our economy in worse shape. No one wants higher taxes, however, if it will benefit our country, I am all for it. I see the shapes the schools are in, they are going to get any better without some significant funding - that money has to come from somewhere. Education is only one sector that I am more familiar with, so I apologize if I use that often, but it could be applied to all aspects of our country. Would I like to pay more in taxes - no. However, If it will boost the economy, make the dollar stronger on a global level, improve the success of all sectors of government programs, and eventually lead to better salaries across the board - bring it on.

    Our Economy is crap. Spending billions on a weekly basis on the war (argue the wars purpose either way you want), while still planning to cut taxes does not make any sense. We either need a plan to withdraw from the war soon, or have a plan to generate more money from within our country. Or, if you want to see significant financial progress - why not do both.

    I am not saying we are going to see miraculous results from Obama or complete devastation from McCain, however, on an economical side McCain does tend duplicate in theory what has been attempted and failed in the past.

    McCain was once considered a "maverick" senator, often going against the grain, and I respect that. However, this was seen more often in the past than in the present. You can't spend that much time in Washington without devloping ties to special interest groups. Both sides have adopted the "change" philosophy for their campaign, and the reform is needed. I don't see McCain or Palin being near the catalyst for this reform as Obama. It just seems they are going to support conservative views at all cost. I hate to say it, Biden has made me sick hearing it - but with McCain we will be seeing more of the same.
    Col,
    I see that your not a fan of McCain. As far as flipflopping they both do that so that doesn't matter to me. Tax cuts are being claimed by Barry as well so why would you support him if thats bad for the economy?
    Barry also claims of raising many types of taxes on the rich, thats a mistake and it will only hurt us all.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Col,
    I see that your not a fan of McCain. As far as flipflopping they both do that so that doesn't matter to me. Tax cuts are being claimed by Barry as well so why would you support him if thats bad for the economy?
    Barry also claims of raising many types of taxes on the rich, thats a mistake and it will only hurt us all.
    Obama has no plans for a tax cut across the board. Raising the tax on the rich, may not be the plan that is going to please everyone, but during the Clinton administration it did wonders for our economy. If we haven't had such an excess of spending for the past 8 years, a tax cut across the board would benefit us all - we have to find a balance, and what McCain plans on doing is just as lopsided as.....well you know.

    Barkley pup, McCain has just as many skeletons in his closet, but that is not what we were debating. I thank the American people and the Democracy we have for forcing our government to impose a higher standard of National securtiy. I just hate it that it took such a travesty to open our eyes. I don't think you can hold President Bush soley accountable for that. I can however, blame his mismanagement of american resources and our economy for the shape we are in now, where you have both parties shouting for change.
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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    They are running skeered for sure Don. She's got them libs tore up like a train wreck.

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    But, will the Mcain/Palin ticket be able to cover the ethnic vote in the end. I believe if "Mr. I can Talk Out of My Back Side and Still Grin" gets in, he'll do enough for the ethnic and illegals to guarantee his second term and accomplish nothing for the country!!

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobra190 View Post
    But, will the Mcain/Palin ticket be able to cover the ethnic vote in the end. I believe if "Mr. I can Talk Out of My Back Side and Still Grin" gets in, he'll do enough for the ethnic and illegals to guarantee his second term and accomplish nothing for the country!!
    YIKES! That kind of talk scares me!! My thought is that traditionally the Black (you said ethnic but it's the black vote he is counting on) voter turn out is usually low compared to other voting groups and Barry is banking that this trend is going to change, thats why the Chicago based Oprah endorsed him as well. Oprah ..ha what a joke, we see her true colors now huh? She wouldn't interview Hillary or Palin...hmmm I see a racial/sexists thread there. She won't interview politically sucessful white women but white guys and half black guys are ok? Only in America!

    I think the fact that McCain is older and is being embraced by the Seniors, Conservative Men/Women, evangelicals and independants that he will win over the Libs and their games. In fact the Senior Citizen group is more active and reliable at the voting booth than any other group. Now if we could get McCain/Palin to speak spanish.......

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    Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!

    well surely he did not mean that the economy is fundamentally sound, period. Thats just what cnn wants you to believe. The man has been around the block a few times, and i think he knows enough about the economy to be my president. Do i think he can solve all our problems, no and i dont believe obama can either. But theres billions of people in the u.s. and someone will and all the president needs to do is be open minded and i think both canidates can do that. Its other issues that im worried about.

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