Col. Forbin or Pontooner can either one of tell me what Obama's platform or his plans to fix the economy or get us out of Iraq, or what his plans are for illegal immigration are. Because he won't or can't.
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Col. Forbin or Pontooner can either one of tell me what Obama's platform or his plans to fix the economy or get us out of Iraq, or what his plans are for illegal immigration are. Because he won't or can't.
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Pontooner said and I quote "Like Col Forbin said I don't know that Obama's plan is a fix all solution but some change is needed or should atleast be given a chance."
Give him a chance? First of all for the office of President of the United States I don't give chances to. Give him a chance you say. I don't give chances who openly are in relations with a cofessed terrorist who bombed the Pentagon, Police stations and Appartments in New York. A chance? ALike Col Forbin said I don't know that Obama's plan is a fix all solution but some change is needed or should atleast be given a chance.
man who stated in his book audacity of hope that he would stand with the Muslim people if the political world turned bad. He attended a church with a pastor who hates America for 20 years and expects me not to think Wright was not like that the times he attended. A man who's wife said she she has never been proud of her country. A man who recieved the third largest amount of lobby funds from Freddie Mac and Fannie May and the Left wants to blame McCain on that and you want me to give him a chance? A man whom admitted to George Stefonopalis that he was a Muslim before old George jumped in and corrected him (same people who flew those planes into the WTC, the Pentagon and that field in Shanksville Penn) and you want me to take a chance on that? A man who tried to barter with the Iraqi Govt to delay withdraw of our troops so if he won president he could do it when he had no legal right to negotiate for our country and you say give him a chance. Bud that's not a CHANCE I'm willing to take. I don't take chances on the future of my 2 children on a man who has absolutly never done one single thing to help our country. A man who voted 4 times in the Illinois state senate to end the life of a child if it came out alive from a botched abortion. As if abortion is not bad enough. Well it's MURDER but that could be a thread all its on. A man who is wanting to raise my taxes and take money out of my pocket and food off my families table and you say give him a chance? I could go on and on. If you want to take a chance buy you a raffle ticket at the county fair. I could care not what you say about President Bush but you can't thank your lucky stars we have not been attacked again. You can thank President Bush!
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Maybe you should stop relying on Fox news for all your Obama info. Check out his website, he has a general outline of his plans. And yes, I have looked at and read through McCains website for information too.Originally Posted by BPenrod
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Oh come on man, many FOX new programs are watched more than all the other networks combined! They are way more fair and balanced than the talking heads like Wolf, Anderson, Gibson, Couric, Laur and the rest of the Liberal media. It's a FACT that the other guys are for Obama why is it so hard to admit that. If I was a Lib I would say heck yeah! We have the media on our side but you guys can't seem to admit the truth.....why? They even followed him overseas for his International Mystery Tour. They never followed McCain like that.
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Col, for goodness sake man, don't get me started too. You've dealt so much erroneous information in this thread I don't even know where to start.
What you're saying is you fully support the mandatory redistribution of wealth here in the land of the free. How is that good for our country? When people see you'll have your money taken away if you're seen as rich, what effect do you think that'll have?
How exactly is taxing the corporations and oil companies going to be good for our country? Those are the companies we work for, you want to force them to lay people off and take jobs offshore even faster than they already are? Each and every one of us buys gas, how can anyone be gullible enough to believe Bo's windfall profit taxes won't be passed directly down to us?
Since when are tax cuts bad for the economy? Did you give YOUR tax money Bush refunded to you back to the government or put it into the ecomomy? Eh? If you believe tax cuts are bad for the economy why are you voting for a guy who says he's going to cut taxes for 95% of us? Come on Col, snap out of that funk and come to your senses!
How is even more of an inept federal government good for the country? I thought all you new deal BO voters were the ones who wanted change. But here you're all for a new federal bureaucracy to run health care that'll make the IRS look like small potatoes. More of the same big government on a big BIG time scale.
Oh and for the record, Bill Clinton didn't do jack for the economy, he just rode a prosperous economy created by those smart enough to cut taxes and shrink the government. To his credit he did turn the deficit into a surplus. His only worthwhile accomplishment, but a significant one for sure. He also singlehandedly revived the cigar industry, but that's another story.
Cut taxes, cut government programs, eliminate onerous government restrictions, eliminate governmental bureaucratic nonsense and let American workers take it from there. The only formula proven to work. How soon we forget.
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After reading through this thread and evryone's views, okay wait a minute! That standing ovation was for DJD and DH! Well said fellas.
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Re: Palin has the Libs SCARED!
Talk about Obama's one certain Tax he wants to start up again and have it at a Base 28% Tax. The Capital gains taxes on the selling of Homes. He wants me to give 28% of the profit I make off of selling my house. Heck no I built the house and made the adjustments and additions so that when I do sell it I make a profit. The profit is what I use to help pay off the next house I buy like everyone else who does this process. So "NO" I say no to having Obama be President......I don't like his tax plans at all.....
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Since when are tax cuts bad for the economy? Did you give YOUR tax money Bush refunded to you back to the government or put it into the ecomomy? Eh? If you believe tax cuts are bad for the economy why are you voting for a guy who says he's going to cut taxes for 95% of us? Come on Col, snap out of that funk and come to your senses!
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Obama still plans to generate additional funds from taxes (remember that 5%-10% he will be taxing is where 90% of the money in this country is. Makes sense to me - if I want a beer, I don't go door to door to ask for a drop from each person until I have enough to satisfy my needs - I go to the liquor store where there is a ton of the stuff (I know a crappy analogy - but who doesn't like beer). He also plans to save money by a systematic withdrawal from Iraq (that is the single biggest factor in our extremely weak economy).
Actually, I did not sink my refund into the economy, I did the single worst thing you could do with that money (which is what the majority of americans did) - paid off debts.
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[QUOTE=Col Forbin;339631]Tsk Tsk Tsk it's so sad that people in this country can't see that demanding more money from other americans is not the right thing to do. Doesn't work, if you think it does your buying into a pipe dream. What did they do to deserve that? Prosper? Work hard? Get lucky? If you were rich would you be on board with that? Be honest, I bet you would not want to be targeted. Are the people who support this idea that selfish?
How about cut spending, maybe even revamp the Silver Platter retirement plan these crooks have as a start let them feel the fruits of their non-labor..
It's the fault of the Government(Dem and Rep) that we have a bad economy not mine. They should fix it without coming at me for more money. Look at the bailouts recently, who will pay for that.
I say make EVERYONE pay they fair share and things will start to turn around. That includes poor people!
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[QUOTE=Col Forbin;339631]You answered my question Col, but somehow still arrive at the wrong conclusion. You paid off debts to lenders, who in turn took that money and loaned it to others or invested it. In other words your money went back into the economy just as President Bush intended it to. (The one exception could've been if your payments were on a Fannie Mae loan. They would've contributed the money to Barack Obama.)
Bet you never thought you'd be doing President Bush's bidding. Makes me worry about you. Hang in there brother, you'll be in that booth punching the McCain/Palin button quicker'n you can say "hanging chad".
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Barak Hussein Obama. That should be enough right there. I don't know if he is MUSLIM or not but he has said it more than once. Went to a church for 20 years that the pastor hates America but in those 20 years he did not know it? Call me a racist if you want but putting a man with even a muslim name in the White House at this time dis-respects this Country even if he is not muslim, which I'm not convinced.
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