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    Re: Barry's View on Gun Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Very slippery slope my friend very slippery indeed.
    I agree, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. If not the right to have arms should not be limmited to guns, but explosives, chemicals, heck why not even missles while we are at it. Of course I am being a little over the top here, but the point being is that the line has to be drawn somewhere, and it needs to be within reason. Keep in mind that when this constition was written, times were different and there was a definite need for self protection - just as there still may be today - but the arms they had in mind were single shot muzzleloading arms that people not only used for self protection, but as there primary means for providing food for families. I don't think our founding fathers ever meant for people to own fully automatic assault rifles. There is no need for individuals to have the same rights to the same weaponry as our military. I am all for individual rights, and the rights to have weapons, however, limits need to be set and enforced.

    "I've always said there are too many guns in the handes of poor people who dont deserve them, A well armed high middle class would have been good for this country, we would still be a colony. Besides armed w3hite middle class citizens dont start wars, that are fought by poor people. (quote from kygorski)"

    What??? I don't understand this????

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    If guns are banned then only the criminals will have guns. The thugs that but the fully auto's do not get them at the local gun shop or Gander Mtn, they. like everthing else that is illegal is smuggled in. Prohibiting law abiding citizens of not being allowed to own guns will not cure anything and I wish some of the lib's and dem's would see this, that is the one thing about the dems that gets my goat. I love splits answer, gun control to me is being able to hit your target and present a effecent killing shot to that target. I have a semi auto SKS, I deer hunt with it as it is an effective weapon and also if the SHTF, it can use NATO ammo as all our enemies use 7.62 x 39.

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    The Dems are really sneaky. They are trying to pass legislation that looks like common sense until you read the fine print. I agree that we don't want a psychologically deranged person owning a gun. But when you read the fine print they want to ban guns for just about anyone that sees a psychaitrist for somethng. This will ban gun ownership to the majority of veterans that have PTSD. Don't trust the Dems!

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    Re: Barry's View on Gun Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    I agree, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. If not the right to have arms should not be limmited to guns, but explosives, chemicals, heck why not even missles while we are at it. Of course I am being a little over the top here, but the point being is that the line has to be drawn somewhere, and it needs to be within reason. Keep in mind that when this constition was written, times were different and there was a definite need for self protection - just as there still may be today - but the arms they had in mind were single shot muzzleloading arms that people not only used for self protection, but as there primary means for providing food for families. I don't think our founding fathers ever meant for people to own fully automatic assault rifles. There is no need for individuals to have the same rights to the same weaponry as our military. I am all for individual rights, and the rights to have weapons, however, limits need to be set and enforced.

    "I've always said there are too many guns in the handes of poor people who dont deserve them, A well armed high middle class would have been good for this country, we would still be a colony. Besides armed w3hite middle class citizens dont start wars, that are fought by poor people. (quote from kygorski)"

    What??? I don't understand this????

    So your freedom of speech should be limited to an ink well and quill pen?

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    Re: Barry's View on Gun Control?

    Gun control is one issue that I'm undecided about.

    On the one hand, our right to bear arms has been seriously watered down since the time of the 2nd Amendment. At that time, we could basically own the best weapon technology available to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government. We can't do that anymore. Not by a long shot. So when you think of it that way, it's fairly meaningless and if you'd still allow people to have handguns and rifles/shotguns, then the hunting crowd should be satisfied.

    On the other hand, I believe in as little government regulations as possible, so I'm not really for banning any weapons, either.

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    Uh Pontooner? Hellooooooo? Col's gonna need some serious help on this one.

    Interesting that places where gun control laws are the strongest have the worst crime rates. Liberals call for change, yet keeping asking for more of the same.

    I believe in the 2nd amendment as it was written, and don't even own a single gun. I've gotta borrow a shotgun from a buddy to rid the estate of a Peppy Lepew who's decided he lives with us.

    I do own a Tippman 98 Custom paintball gun. I've found hunting humans to be way more fun than other critters. My sons have joined us in the woods a few times, and there's something deeply gratifying about shooting at your kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    Uh Pontooner? Hellooooooo? Col's gonna need some serious help on this one.

    Interesting that places where gun control laws are the strongest have the worst crime rates. Liberals call for change, yet keeping asking for more of the same.

    I believe in the 2nd amendment as it was written, and don't even own a single gun. I've gotta borrow a shotgun from a buddy to rid the estate of a Peppy Lepew who's decided he lives with us.

    I do own a Tippman 98 Custom paintball gun. I've found hunting humans to be way more fun than other critters. My sons have joined us in the woods a few times, and there's something deeply gratifying about shooting at your kids.
    Jim,
    Do they shoot back? Or do you insure their weapons are faulty.

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    Re: Barry's View on Gun Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devils Horse View Post
    Uh Pontooner? Hellooooooo? Col's gonna need some serious help on this one.

    Interesting that places where gun control laws are the strongest have the worst crime rates. Liberals call for change, yet keeping asking for more of the same.

    I believe in the 2nd amendment as it was written, and don't even own a single gun. I've gotta borrow a shotgun from a buddy to rid the estate of a Peppy Lepew who's decided he lives with us.

    I do own a Tippman 98 Custom paintball gun. I've found hunting humans to be way more fun than other critters. My sons have joined us in the woods a few times, and there's something deeply gratifying about shooting at your kids.
    You know I have always wanted to do the paintball thing that sounds like too much fun. Put my camoflouge and stealth skills to the test. I've been hiding from critters my entire life especially muture whitetail bucks so humans aught to be breeze.

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    IDEA how about a Fishin.com paintball war, Dem,s vs Repub's should be able to settle everything then and have fun doing it? LOL

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    If poor people didn't have weapons, there would have been no revolution, we'd be english. I'm not for total gun control, but its almost a sin to say there shouild be limits. Mine are legal, but I can easily buy stolen ones at fles markets, with hardly any identification.When folks say the problem in our citys are from illegal arms, how did they get them?If anyone needs protection, its poor urban blacks, yet they are held up as examples of no limits on arms. Before they ban weapons, lets make sure its not against classes and income levels.Every felonyn free citizen has the right to bear arms.About the rich white middle class, they had resources to stay out of the armed services, many of them did, if poor folks had the only say in starting wars, there wouldn't be any.They are the ones who have borne the brunt of most of our wars.

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    Re: Barry's View on Gun Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    If poor people didn't have weapons, there would have been no revolution, we'd be english. I'm not for total gun control, but its almost a sin to say there shouild be limits. Mine are legal, but I can easily buy stolen ones at fles markets, with hardly any identification.When folks say the problem in our citys are from illegal arms, how did they get them?If anyone needs protection, its poor urban blacks, yet they are held up as examples of no limits on arms. Before they ban weapons, lets make sure its not against classes and income levels.Every felonyn free citizen has the right to bear arms.About the rich white middle class, they had resources to stay out of the armed services, many of them did, if poor folks had the only say in starting wars, there wouldn't be any.They are the ones who have borne the brunt of most of our wars.
    Thank you for the clarifacation kygorski. I just did not understand it the first time.

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    Re: Barry's View on Gun Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by kygorski View Post
    If poor people didn't have weapons, there would have been no revolution, we'd be english. I'm not for total gun control, but its almost a sin to say there shouild be limits. Mine are legal, but I can easily buy stolen ones at fles markets, with hardly any identification.When folks say the problem in our citys are from illegal arms, how did they get them?If anyone needs protection, its poor urban blacks, yet they are held up as examples of no limits on arms. Before they ban weapons, lets make sure its not against classes and income levels.Every felonyn free citizen has the right to bear arms.About the rich white middle class, they had resources to stay out of the armed services, many of them did, if poor folks had the only say in starting wars, there wouldn't be any.They are the ones who have borne the brunt of most of our wars.


    Wow, some very wise words and very ignorant ones too.

    Inner city "poor urban blacks" should fight for the second far more fiercely than any "RICH"?/??//??? "white middle class" PERSON. Blacks were slaves because they were denied the right to arms, maybe due to all the "RICH" "white middle class" owning all of them.

    By the way citizens should be able to own far superior weaponary than our governments military, otherwise this is not a democracy.Anyone who doesn't know the history and failures of the continental army AINT from Ky.

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