Barry's View on Gun Control?

[JD7.62]

You guys do know that full auto weapons ARE LEGAL TO ANYONE WHO CAN LEGALLY PURCHASE A HANDGUN dont you?! Hmm, I hate hearing about all those mass shootings and murders with automatic weapons.

[DJD]

JD,
Help me out on that one. I'm slow at times, what are you saying?

[Col Forbin]

There is a huge difference in guns as well as ammo designed to hunt and those designed to kill or wound as many people as possible in the shortest ammount of time possible. Why don't any of you fight for your right to keep chemical weaponry as well, they were designed with the same idea of mass killings as were fully automatic assault rifles.

No one has mentioned ammunition either. Do any of you really hunt with armor peircing rounds? Some ammunition was designed not to kill, but rather severely wound. In times of war, you loose one man with a death, but if someone is severely wounded - they are out of commission as well as the two other people that need to assist them to safety. I guess you guys this should be just as available as the weapons in question.

I just don't understand how the right to bear arms have been taken to such an extreme that common sense has been left behind.

[JD7.62]

JD,
Help me out on that one. I'm slow at times, what are you saying?

I'm just pointing out that even though you can legally own a full automatic weapon, even a mini-gun, crimes commited with these weapons are virtually un heard of.

Col, ammunition use for hunting is exponentionally more devastating to humans than so called "armor piercing" rounds. Also, any rifle other then .22 will go through any vest an officer may wear like a hot knife through butter. "Armor piercing" or "cop killer" rounds are nothing more then a buzz word made up by the gun grabbers to strike an emotional chord with the uneducated on the issue.

In fact, an officers vest is designed to stop what he is most llikely going to get shot by....his OWN WEAPON!

Of course we are not talking about .50BMG rounds that are litterally designed to pierce light armored vehicles, however, there have been no crimes commited with such weapons.

[mhall]

JD thanks for giving Col the ballistic lesson. you beat me to it. Col I would much rather be shot by a full jacket than a soft tip or hollow point as they are evil believe me. Col, up until several years ago snipers, especially Marine snipers the best in the world bar none used regular hunting rifles to eliminate their objective. Carlos Hathcock, probably the greatest Marine sniper of all time with 93 CK'S in Vietnam and some in the Corp believe over 300 used a Winchester Model (70) 30-06. He did occassionally use a Browning 50 cal but it was rare and only when he needed extreme distance. Now Col,,,, Carlos Hathcock was an assault weapon in every since of the word and he had the entire North Vietnamese Army so scared of him they offered one of the largest bounties of the war for his head. They never touched the White Feather as they called him as he had one in his hat just to taunght them. My point is he used a hunting rifle, and he was an enemies worst nightmare. Rather it be true or just legend the ole shot another sniper through the scope deal was Carlos Hathcock, even though he denied it till his death with a rye smile and light chuckle.

[Devils Horse]

Been on a severity one problem since 2:15 this am. Still on it. This making a living stuff is way over rated.

Hey Don, I have done work on the safeties of their guns, it's not my fault if they sometimes malfunction.

Mark, paintball in the woods is an absolute blast, even for an old dude like me. Somewhere inside you realize the worst that can happen is a nasty welt or 10 (We all have our markers cranked up, last time we checked most of us could put a hole in a cardboard box) but it seems pretty real when the rounds are flying. Hunting stuff that shoots back adds another dimension.

Many will hunker down, those are the ones I like best. Nothing like chasing a camper to ground and gunning him down like a rabid skunk. That said, I get my share of welts too. If you want to play, let me know, humidity's down and 'spray and pray' season is almost here.

Hey Bobby, which side are gonna play for in the match? You have to pick or we'll all shoot at you.

[Bobby Headrick]

Still Undecided, might just stay in the middle and shoot at both sides. lol lol.

[mhall]

Still Undecided, might just stay in the middle and shoot at both sides. lol lol.

Come'on now Bobby you know you are a closet conservative. DH, Don, myself and some of the other fellas are starting to sway you over to the RIGHT side I can hear it in your posts. There is hope for ole Bobby yet, lol.

[Bobby Headrick]

Closet conservitive? I am not Clay Akin.........lol lol lol.

[Col Forbin]

You all do a good job of twisting words to fit your views. The only point I have made - is some weapons are designed for the sole purpose of killing people. You all have made a very good point in that it takes a person to pull the trigger - but I don't understand why anyone would want to have an weapon designed for that specific reason. Hunt all you want - maybe even have something for protection if you feel you need that. But, Jd made a good point about cops getting shot with their own weapons - this holds true for a large majority of gun related deaths - many are shot by their own guns.

Many people that own guns (including myself) are educated and store them unloaded under lock and key in a safe, however, many do not take such precautions. So am I for gun control - no. Am I for more regulations regarding who can purchase and own a gun, and education on the weapons they have as well as regulations on particular types of weapons - yes.

This is the last I will write on this issue, justify your thoughts any way you see fit, or continue to twist my words around, you are only reinforcing my belief that hardcore consercatives are incapable of seeing views that differ from your own.

[JD7.62]

Col, luckily the 2nd Amendment wasnt just for hunting. Also the first guns werent deigned for hunting either...all guns were designed to kill people. Pretty much all guns used today in hunting have millitary roots. Take the Lever Action 30-30. Its probably one of the most popular hunting rifle today but 100 years ago it was used to tame the west.

My favorite example of why we should have to own these so called "assualt Rifles" are the LA riots. The photos of the Vietnamese (I **** at spelling and too lazy to loo it up) store owners sitting on their roofs protecting their property with AKs will always remind me of how important being well armed can be. If they hadnt they could have lost everything.

[DJD]

Been on a severity one problem since 2:15 this am. Still on it. This making a living stuff is way over rated.

Hey Don, I have done work on the safeties of their guns, it's not my fault if they sometimes malfunction.

Mark, paintball in the woods is an absolute blast, even for an old dude like me. Somewhere inside you realize the worst that can happen is a nasty welt or 10 (We all have our markers cranked up, last time we checked most of us could put a hole in a cardboard box) but it seems pretty real when the rounds are flying. Hunting stuff that shoots back adds another dimension.

Many will hunker down, those are the ones I like best. Nothing like chasing a camper to ground and gunning him down like a rabid skunk. That said, I get my share of welts too. If you want to play, let me know, humidity's down and 'spray and pray' season is almost here.

Hey Bobby, which side are gonna play for in the match? You have to pick or we'll all shoot at you.

Hey Jim,
We are talking about heading down Saturday to Gander Mountain you gonna be in town? Maybe we could meet up and say hello at the store...Ill be the one in the Gator shirt, LOL! JK I don't want to get slapped.