Debate??

[Col Forbin]

I have been waiting for someone to start a thread about last weeks debate. If Obama would have stunk up a debate as bad as McCain did, we would already be on the 3rd or 4th page. Obama addressed all of this during the first half of the debate - the half where he really showed McCain up.

I was even more surprised when he stood toe-to-toe with McCain on matters of National Security (McCains area of expertise). I was expecting Obama get it just as good as he gave the first half - but it seemed pretty balanced. I am not saying Obama got the best of him by any means over matters of national security, I just thought McCain would be a little better than he was.

McCain really needs to work on addressing the issues rather than putting down/condesending his opponent. A little eye contact would have been nice too.

Palin is going to struggle with Biden as well. I think Palin is a great at giving speeches, but not so great at responding to issues on the fly. I can't count how many times she has said "I'll get back to you on that." I think her inexperience in national level government and global politics is really going to show this week.

[DJD]

I watched it and didn't post anything because it was typical garbage. Neither one impressed me and as you can guess Barry makes me sick with his answers. He is a slick talker and never admits to being wrong even when he was called out many times on the surge idea. He is a polished, shallow, fake, one upper, opportunist, no experience and a know it all who I can't stand. Did I mention I think he is a joke? Well spoken but still a joke.

[bassin_bug]

I vote for Col. Forbin for Political Moderator/Director/Producer. Don't know what you're going to do about Palin being cut by a different pattern; no gonads and no fire hose. I think too many people are focused on the fact that she's........of all things.........Heaven help us...a...a...a WOMAN!

One thing for sure she has been pregnant, a lot. However, she wasn't barefoot (those were nice shoes she was wearing), and she wasn't shackled to the stove. I'll be dang if she didn't look like she shaves her legs and plucks her eyebrows. Betcha' she shaves her armpits, too.

What has national level guv'ment and global politics got to do with being vice president? George Bush has set the bar really high for Palin and the other candidates. Check it out:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm

[Col Forbin]

I watched it and didn't post anything because it was typical garbage. Neither one impressed me and as you can guess Barry makes me sick with his answers. He is a slick talker and never admits to being wrong even when he was called out many times on the surge idea. He is a polished, shallow, fake, one upper, opportunist, no experience and a know it all who I can't stand. Did I mention I think he is a joke? Well spoken but still a joke.

I don't understand how he could make you sick with his answers. He at least had a logical answer for every question asked, as well as rebuttal opportunities. McCain tended to avoid some of the questions talking more on Obama's lack of knowledge of the issues, rather than directly answering. A seasoned politician with a direct area of expertise relating to 2/3 of the debate topics should have been all over this one. I think he is going to have to move past pointing out Obama's lack of experience or knowledge, as Obama definitely showed he is very knowledgeable of the issues asked, and has a plan of action for areas needed. McCain and Palin are going to have to start directly addressing the issues, or their recent momentum will rapidly start to decrease, as it has already to a degree. This next month is going to be extremely interesting, as Obama is starting to build momentum going into the home stretch. This is going to be a close one - perhaps similar to that of 2000 - let's just hope that the appropriate person gets into office this time around.

[Devils Horse]

I wasn't able to watch the debate in realtime, so I watched the recording last night.

McCain won the debate pure and simple. A knockout punch? No, Obama is too slick to knockout. Over the course of all the debates his inexperience will show more and more though.

I don't think McCain wants to look at him much for fear of losing his temper. He looks over and sees a very smooth talking politician made by the media and rhetoric, with virtually no accomplishments. He on the other hand has spent his career in the trenches and actually has a resume. Picture a teacher who didn't even finish school vying with you for a job. You'd prolly get angry too.

If Barack Obama were interviewing for the job of President of the United States, he wouldn't even make it past the initial screening.

The real differences are whether you want a large socialist government, or a smaller leaner one. Whether you want to take care of yourself and expect everyone to do the same, or have the government redistribute the country's wealth and take care of us.

Considering the job the federal government does on everything else, I just know they'd do a great job of national health care and take real good care of us.

[Col Forbin]

Considering the job the federal government does on everything else, I just know they'd do a great job of national health care and take real good care of us.

Or we could always go the conservative/republican route - privatize it until it fails, then force a government bail-out.

[MsgMills]

This is one of the posts I made on the Debate forum Thread on the Kentucky Hunting.net Community Board. Responding to another poster about how he likes Obama so much and how Obama won the debate in his opinion.... By the way he's currently in the Military overseas...

My Reply" Sorry 68, but I just don't see anything close between Mr. John McCain and President George W. Bush. They both have their own beliefs and thinking about the way they think this Country should be run. Mr. McCain does not and will not keep the American people going in the direction all the Democrats think we are going towards a Recession. I do believe that Mr. McCain will be our next President and after this election, most people will forget all about Barry Obama, just like they have about Al Gore and the other 2nd place finisher's in the Presidential Elections.......

Grouser68, being a military man I can't for the life of me...see how you could not want someone with a vast Military history leading you as the Commander in Chief. It's almost like The New York Yankee's signing Brett Favre to play baseball...Brett Farve might know about the game and doesn't have any experience at the game...But a heck of a lot of people really like him, so he should be able to play for the Yankee's..WRONG.... This my friend is how I see Obama being portrayed as a choice for President.... He has no experience to lead this Country, but he sure can talk a good talk......

[Devils Horse]

Or we could always go the conservative/republican route - privatize it until it fails, then force a government bail-out.

So we as private citizens are failures? Come to think of it, that's what y'all want, a big ole government bail out. No thanks, I'll stay privatized.

[mhall]

Maybe I'm just stupid. I just don't see why everybody gets so head over heels for anybody that speaks well. Some of the greatest gifts for gab guys are some of the biggest crooks in history. Why, tell me why is there so much importance about being a smooth talker. Times of adversity and how people perform are how I gauge people not how many big words they use. When planes were blowing up side by side one after another atop a carrier, John McCain on video I might add, stopped, risked his own life to try and save his fellow comrades that were dieing. Then TWICE as a POW was offered early release but instead he refused and was brutely beaten for his decision. He did this because other men were in front of him and he knew it wasn't fair to go ahead of them. These things aren't words I can't pronounce or spell but ACTIONS that label the man. I ask you this,what has Barry the great ever done that remotely stacks up to those things. UHHHHH, play basketball, live in the hood and do a slumlords billings, and well I'm out you guys got anything. Do I think McCain is the greatest thing since frozen popcycles.... NO..... but I've got two choices and you can believe it WILL NOT BE BARRY.

[MsgMills]

Amen Mhall...tell the dems how it really is......

[DJD]

Or we could always go the conservative/republican route - privatize it until it fails, then force a government bail-out.

Col,
Hasn't it been proven that the greed of some key Dems running Fannie and Freddie has led to this debacle? That's what I hear anyway.

[Col Forbin]

I did not intend that the failure of these large organizations were due to any party's failings. When too much reliance is put into the private sector, we have little to no control of mismanagements as well as the ability to take preventative actions, especially when these financial instutions become so powerful that their failure effects our national economic situation.

I don't think the debate was a landslide in Obama'a favor, It was rather even - aside from the economic issues that Obama seemed to have a better handle on. Considering the issueus presented, McCain should have been able to take total control on the debate. However, Obama, being able to stay even with him on issues such as National security was a victory for him. I just think everyone expected McCain to run away from this, and even the ultra-conservative was, although unadmittedly, impressed with Obamas understanding of global politics as well as national issues.

So saying McCain stunk it up, as I did in my first post was a little harsh. He just did not do near as well as the republicans, or many of dem's though that he would.