hey fly tyers

[lilmule]

Its considered the Messinger method of fly tying,while he often used bucktail,belly hair is more floatable due to its hollowness.
Just takes practice spinning it around the hook,I used common fly tying thread,nothing but my fingers in a cats paw configuration and a vise.
packing ever so much more then clipping with scissors to shape.
I got to where I could tie a Mcginty a wet fly in deer hair and it was very floatable(bubblebee),just put on a few layers of back then yellow alternating.Even a royal coachman lookalike can be tied this way,it does however take more time and pain in making,but the reward is a floater.
An easy pattern for anyone to make and floats superb is a goofus bug,size 18 and up floats like a cork,and requires no tedious spinning of deer hair.Basically deer hair tied and folded,brookies,bows to browns inhale them readily,in flouresent orange or yellow.
An industrial accident limits my tying to a few min and took away most of the joy(severed the unal nerve)
Easier to try large first like a dahlburg diver on a number 1 hook,to learn to spin.
You actually spin the hair via a wrap around the hook and hair with the thread itself not the hair,tightening it tends to spread the hair around,takes practice.

[Deaddrift84]

Hey buddy, all you gotta do is catch me and i'll show the wonders of stacking. I hardly ever spin at all anymore unless it's to put in a really even band all the way around. Even on my poppers I pretty much stick with stacking. I'll show you. Also for you lilmule, Dave whitlock has an excellent instructional video. If you got our dvd from basspro, you probably have it. It does take practice to learn though. Especially the trimming/shaping part. Don;t get discouraged. Colonel and I definately have lots of misfit flies. I like occasionally to fish them anyway when the bite is really hot so I can say, "look even my garbage catches fish!"