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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by zx150 View Post
    Didn't Gore try to distance himself from Clinton?
    Not in policy. He did, however, try to distance himself from him on a personal level because of his personal affairs.

    McCain, on the other hand, is trying to distance himself from Bush on a political level in terms of policy and budget - which up until this campaign he agreed with. I guess he needed to appeal to the majority of Americans fed up with the Bush Administration.

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    Personally I like neither candidate,but how an American can vote for a self proclaimed muslim like Obama that publicly stated ,in a book ,that he would gladly take up a Jihad against the USA if so needed, is beyond me.I will never vote for any person who wants to take my right to own and bear arms away in any way shape or form,This right is the only thing stopping a complete Govt takeover of this country.I will also never vote for a man who has an ally in Jesse Jackson and the ilk whom I see as nothing better than Extortionists who use the race card to blackmail businesses out of Millions each year for their own benefit.As far as Jobs being shipped overseas,one only need to trace that big blunder back to Bill Clinton and his Chinese allies.If I were a service man in Iraq or Afghanistan and Obama got elected,I'd desert as fast as I could,The President is supposed to be the Commander in General of our Armed Forces and Obama hasn't a clue.

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

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    Personally I like neither candidate,but how an American can vote for a self proclaimed muslim like Obama that publicly stated ,in a book ,that he would gladly take up a Jihad against the USA if so needed, is beyond me.I will never vote for any person who wants to take my right to own and bear arms away in any way shape or form,This right is the only thing stopping a complete Govt takeover of this country.I will also never vote for a man who has an ally in Jesse Jackson and the ilk whom I see as nothing better than Extortionists who use the race card to blackmail businesses out of Millions each year for their own benefit.As far as Jobs being shipped overseas,one only need to trace that big blunder back to Bill Clinton and his Chinese allies.If I were a service man in Iraq or Afghanistan and Obama got elected,I'd desert as fast as I could,The President is supposed to be the Commander in General of our Armed Forces and Obama hasn't a clue.
    Don't you think that before you post something that inflammatory, maybe you should do some research on your own, and find out if it's really true? For the record, I don't plan on voting for Obama. Liberal Democrat that I am, I still can't vote for someone who is as naive on foreign policy as he is. Plus, I want healthcare to be affordable for everybody, not provided free of charge by the government. But I am sick and tired of seeing people spreading these lies about Obama. His is NOT a Muslim, and never said anything like "he would gladly take up a Jihad against the USA if so needed." I he had, don't you think McCain would have mentioned that during his campaign? Oh yeah, he did actually address insinuations that Obama is a Muslim. Bill Cunningham, a conservative radio talk show host, was introducing McCain during a rally in Ohio, and kept emphasizing Obama's middle name, Hussein, which is Muslim in origin, and came from his late father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Kenyan. Here's what McCain said when he got on stage:

    “It’s my understanding that before I came in here a person who was on the program before I spoke made some disparaging remarks about my two colleagues in the Senate, Senator Obama and Senator Clinton,” he said. “I have repeatedly stated my respect for Senator Obama and Senator Clinton, that I will treat them with respect. I will call them ‘Senator.’ We will have a respectful debate, as I have said on hundreds of occasions. I regret any comments that may have been made about these two individuals who are honorable Americans.”

    Responding to questions from reporters, Mr. McCain said he did not hear what Mr. Cunningham said, saying that when he arrived, Mr. Portman was on stage.

    “Whatever suggestion that was made that was any way disparaging to the integrity, character, honesty of either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton was wrong,” he said, “I condemn it, and if I have any responsibility, I will take the responsibility, and I apologize for it.”

    He called Mr. Obama a “man of integrity” and said he was someone he had come to know “pretty well and I admire.”

    He also said that it was not appropriate to invoke Mr. Obama’s middle name in the course of the campaign.

    “I absolutely repudiate such comments,” he said. “It will never happen again.”

    Source: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/mccain-repudiates-hussein-obama-remarks/

    For my part, I think Obama should change his middle name to "seriously, I'm not a Muslim." But I guess some people wouldn't believe him even then.

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

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    Don't you think that before you post something that inflammatory, maybe you should do some research on your own, and find out if it's really true? For the record, I don't plan on voting for Obama. Liberal Democrat that I am, I still can't vote for someone who is as naive on foreign policy as he is. Plus, I want healthcare to be affordable for everybody, not provided free of charge by the government. But I am sick and tired of seeing people spreading these lies about Obama. His is NOT a Muslim, and never said anything like "he would gladly take up a Jihad against the USA if so needed." I he had, don't you think McCain would have mentioned that during his campaign? Oh yeah, he did actually address insinuations that Obama is a Muslim. Bill Cunningham, a conservative radio talk show host, was introducing McCain during a rally in Ohio, and kept emphasizing Obama's middle name, Hussein, which is Muslim in origin, and came from his late father, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Kenyan. Here's what McCain said when he got on stage:

    “It’s my understanding that before I came in here a person who was on the program before I spoke made some disparaging remarks about my two colleagues in the Senate, Senator Obama and Senator Clinton,” he said. “I have repeatedly stated my respect for Senator Obama and Senator Clinton, that I will treat them with respect. I will call them ‘Senator.’ We will have a respectful debate, as I have said on hundreds of occasions. I regret any comments that may have been made about these two individuals who are honorable Americans.”

    Responding to questions from reporters, Mr. McCain said he did not hear what Mr. Cunningham said, saying that when he arrived, Mr. Portman was on stage.

    “Whatever suggestion that was made that was any way disparaging to the integrity, character, honesty of either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton was wrong,” he said, “I condemn it, and if I have any responsibility, I will take the responsibility, and I apologize for it.”

    He called Mr. Obama a “man of integrity” and said he was someone he had come to know “pretty well and I admire.”

    He also said that it was not appropriate to invoke Mr. Obama’s middle name in the course of the campaign.

    “I absolutely repudiate such comments,” he said. “It will never happen again.”

    Source: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/mccain-repudiates-hussein-obama-remarks/

    For my part, I think Obama should change his middle name to "seriously, I'm not a Muslim." But I guess some people wouldn't believe him even then.

    Maybe you should do a little research yourself =
    http://sweetness-light.com/archive/are-we-ready-for-a-madrassa-educated-president
    http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/138973
    He can Flip Flop and disguise his past faster than John Kerry ever did,but in my opinion the Apple rarely falls far from the tree.

    http://www.usvetdsp.com/dec06/obama_muslim.htm
    Last edited by kyfanatic; 10-08-2008 at 05:28 PM.

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

    Did you bother to check the site I referred to? I checked the ones you posted, and those are all extreme right-wing blogs, and the "facts" that they quote have been widely disproven. OK so the NY Times is a liberal paper, but they didn't just make up those quotes. So show us a quote from a reputable news organization that backs up your position. I would accept a reference to a conservative news organization. Try Fox news, or the Wall Street Journal, or the New York Post. Or a centrist paper like USA Today. Or anyone else who's not so far to the right or left as to be totally in the dark.

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

    Surely DH, your entire post was a joke. I laughed several times. There is alot of blame to be shared. I still don't see it as possible for anyone with a shred of common sense to defend the Bush administration in any way shape or form. He will be remembered as the worst president in the past hundred years.

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

    Glad I could provide you some humor, it's what I live for.

    Someone who's pulling for the biggest socialist federal government in history telling me I lack common sense is rich indeed. You've hurt me this time Col...hurt me bad.

    Wost president in 100 years? Sorry that spot's reserved for Jimmy Carter. I don't seem to remember President Bush being impeached either. Maybe if I were smart enough to define the word 'is' I'd understand your point.

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

    Anyone who denies Obama's affiliations with these persons/groups is living in a false fantasy world,anyone who could vote for Obama is a traitor to this country =
    http://sooshisoo.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/obamas-radical-friends-communists-marxists-corrupt-politicians-racist-mentors/

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

    "Have there been any radical Muslim bombings in our country during his Presidency? "

    Ummm, heard of that 9-11 thing.....

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
    "Have there been any radical Muslim bombings in our country during his Presidency? "

    Ummm, heard of that 9-11 thing.....
    Yep,Bush had been in office for 9 months.Of course let's not look at Bill Clinton who let Bin Laden run around bombing Embassy's everywhere,lowered our National Defenses down to practically nothing to pay for his other schemes (you know the ones that have us in the shape we are today),and Had Bin Laden pegged to a location and let him walk.You might also thank Clinton as the one who buddied up to the Chinese and started sending all our jobs overseas.I love how people put all the blame on the President anyway,The President can only do what the House and Senate let him,when the Liberals took over majority control in 2006 they have done everything in their power to run this country in the ground so they could say Bush did it.The wackos in hollywood have run constant barrages on our TV sets that make me sick of the whole Democratic party.
    Prior to that I voted for either party if I thought they put up the best choice,but with all the specialty group butt kissing the Dems do just to get votes I wouldn't vote for one on my life.They are against Gun owners,Against Hunting,and if the Liberal PETA Dems get their way you won't be Fishing either,I don't know how any person that posts on a fishing board could stand up for the Liberals.

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    kyfanatic, i agree with you 110 %.

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    Re: Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

    Quote Originally Posted by kyfanatic View Post
    ...and Had Bin Laden pegged to a location and let him walk....
    May be Reagan/Bush should not have trained Bin Laden years ago. Would have saved us a lot of problems.

    Gotta love the irony in repubs crying about the Hollywood wackos. After all, their big hero, Reagan, was a former actor....

    Andrew

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