Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years

[mhall]

May be Reagan/Bush should not have trained Bin Laden years ago. Would have saved us a lot of problems.

Gotta love the irony in repubs crying about the Hollywood wackos. After all, their big hero, Reagan, was a former actor....

Andrew

Andrew you and I are tighter than the hair on your dogs back, but I don't get why you bash Ronnie he was all that and a bag of chips. Reagan and Bush trained Afghan's to defend themselves against Russian invaders and was a worthy cause at the time. You saying they trained terrorists is a low blow.

[apb]

Mark,

Not meant as a low blow. If you do some checking around you'll find that during Reagan/Bush the CIA helped out Bin Ladin in Afganistan. Heck, you'll even find photos of Rumsfeld happily shaking hands with Hussien. All part of the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality. Yes, both parties have stood by that. After getting bitten in the butt on that several times you think they would learn. My point was to kyfinatic. He commented that Clinton let Bin Ladin slip away (note that we had no legit reason to want him at that point), yet he fails to acknowledge that Reagan/Bush trained him. Its not all black and white and no one administration is completely good or evil.

Andrew

ps, to those who want to lump me into the Obama crowd, I'm an indepedant. Personally I think both candidates leave a lot to be desired.

[mhall]

Mark,

Not meant as a low blow. If you do some checking around you'll find that during Reagan/Bush the CIA helped out Bin Ladin in Afganistan. Heck, you'll even find photos of Rumsfeld happily shaking hands with Hussien. All part of the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality. Yes, both parties have stood by that. After getting bitten in the butt on that several times you think they would learn. My point was to kyfinatic. He commented that Clinton let Bin Ladin slip away (note that we had no legit reason to want him at that point), yet he fails to acknowledge that Reagan/Bush trained him. Its not all black and white and no one administration is completely good or evil.

Andrew

ps, to those who want to lump me into the Obama crowd, I'm an indepedant. Personally I think both candidates leave a lot to be desired.

No I too am not one of these it's all one party's fault type of guys. All politicians are crooks and liars that's why they are in politics so they can be paid to lie, and steal.

[kyfanatic]

Mark,

Not meant as a low blow. If you do some checking around you'll find that during Reagan/Bush the CIA helped out Bin Ladin in Afganistan. Heck, you'll even find photos of Rumsfeld happily shaking hands with Hussien. All part of the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality. Yes, both parties have stood by that. After getting bitten in the butt on that several times you think they would learn. My point was to kyfinatic. He commented that Clinton let Bin Ladin slip away (note that we had no legit reason to want him at that point), yet he fails to acknowledge that Reagan/Bush trained him. Its not all black and white and no one administration is completely good or evil.

Andrew

ps, to those who want to lump me into the Obama crowd, I'm an indepedant. Personally I think both candidates leave a lot to be desired.

I agree that both candidates have a lot to be desired,I also am aware that the US trained Bin Laden to fight Russia in Afghanistan and even sold arms to Saddam in Iraq to fight Iran,but Bin Laden was wanted when Clinton could have had him handed over by Sudan,he was responsible for bombing the US Embassy in Kenya,the 93' World Trade Center bombing,several other attempted bombings of Albanian US Embassy and others,the plain simple fact is Clinton was too busy playing with his interns to care,he let him walk and 9-1-01 followed.Obama is being backed by the same enemy we are fighting,education paid for by Saudi's with ties to Hamas and the PLO,buddies with Bill Ayers who bombed the Pentagon,definately not Presidential material in my eyes.Dems keep hiding records and playing the old switch the focus game,but some of us have been around long enough to see the truth.