Question for the Obama Voters

[Col Forbin]

McKain has said that NCLB is broke and needs fixing, he has a plan for that. The problem with that is the funding was left behind. The standards were put in place but the money to enable schools to meet that standard wasn't there.

Have you examined McCain's education proposal. It is no different than NCLB, except for offereing vouchers in the tier 3 failing schools. So in a way it is making a bad policy worse. Do you know where school's recieve the bulk of thier money? Local property taxes. I garauntee, that the voucher initiative will bring about the highest increase in your local property taxes that you have seen in the last 50 years.

[Bobby Headrick]

Col you have been outnumberd on this forum, but you are still fighting. I do not see how any canidate when elected can do anything without rasing some taxes, Guys we are in the WORST financil crises since the 30's mostly due to but some will never admit it, due to unknown reasons, is this stupid war of BUSH'S. We are spending 10 BILLION a mth there, that is 10 BILLION DOLLARS, TAX PAYERS DOLLARS, and you wonder why we are broke as a country? And in this mess? By the way that is 120 BILLION a year, x 6 years = 720 BILLION an the bailout is 750 BILLION and growing and we owe China several BILLION, and no telling how many other countrys we owe BILLIONS to, due to paying for this war, This war has takning a major toll on our economy here, gas up due to they say supply/demand,,well this war is demanding a lot of fuel, also it has taken a serious toll on our military, depleting it to a state that I fear that we cannot defend our country at this time properly,we citizens would have to take up that slack. The ones who have profited the most from this war has been Cheny/Haliburtin and the Saudie's. Some have said that if we pull out we lose, wake up WE HAVE ALREADY LOST, the TERROSITS WHOLE PLAN WAS TO HIT THE US'S ECONOMY and they have SUCCEDED. What I am saying is not Biased nor political IT IS FACT, PLAN AND SIMPLE FACT. And what is WIN this war, What is the goal What is the prize? NO ONE has ever SAID what WIN means in this war. We are not fighting on a "front" like WWII and WWI, which both were honorable wars and nessary. THis war was not justified and not nessary, if we wanted Sadam out so bad I am sure a covert op could have been just as effective, took care of LIbia did it not? And we have let the main player OSAMA BIN LADEN, A SAUDIE, slip away. As our fearless leader did not want to upset ole Bin's family, as they are a very owerful and RICH family in SAUDIE ARABI and the Saudies are our "FRIENDS" so go ahead and ELECT MCain,as we have to win this war, no matter what the cost on MONEY, TAX PAYERS MONEY, and IN LIVES OF YOUR CHILDREN, HUSBANDS, FATHERS,DAUGHTERS, MOTHERS,BROTHERS & SISTERS. THese brave men and women have done a great job and deserve better than this and I respect them all. And I salute all that have ever served our Nation. Another thing Bush has destroyed our constituion already, ie, WIRE TAPS, GITMO,War without PROVICATION, to name a few. And another thing if I make 250 k a year I would gladley pay 3% more in taxes, but also I can write stuff off and not lose much so NO BIG DEAL. IT IS ONLY 3%. But is is funny the one's crying the most about this are the one's who do not and never will make 250 k a year. Enough of this rant, You vote I vote, my the BEST one win, and no matter who wins I will HONOR them even though I do not agree with them, I still honor Bush as our Pres,but do not respect him, as that is what AMERICANS DO, I am not either DEM or Repub I AM AN AMERICAN, who just wants OUR country BACK.

[DJD]

Bobby,
I'm not willing to forgive the bozo's who pushed subprime mortgages through. This is another HUGE reason that the economy has fallen. If there was any justice wouldn't you think the men who had any hand in this debacle would be fired? Alot of them are Dems and if there are any GOP members send them home as well.
Instead they are the ones masterminding the bailout package that hasn't worked...hmmmm seems to me that both parties had a HUGE hand in this economic breakdown.
Barry ain't the answer he is just the next big dufus that will preach to us as his party tells him too. Send them all home and start over.

[Devils Horse]

You sound like a Dem to me Bobby, but how you view yourself is your business.

The war is not what put sand in the gears of our economy, the collapse was initiated by the actions of the Democratic party. The Republicans made only weak effort to check those practices for fear of being labeled racists. Now both parties are guilty of stealing hundreds of billions of our money to pay for their pandering and ineptitude.

How anyone could vote for a candidate promising a larger federal government is absolutely beyond my comprehension. Long as people continue to vote for more government and socialism, we aren't ever getting our country back.

So you feel we should've just left Iraq alone? Don't you figger it would've been a matter of time till the next attack on our country if we hadn't have done something? So Iraq was wrong Bobby, exactly what should we have done? Every day I hear people bashing President Bush about Iraq, but I never hear them providing any alternative answers. Here's your chance.

[Col Forbin]

Our Mission in Afghanastan was the War on Terror. The war on Iraq is a different matter all together, only distracting us from our intial cause. Our current administration did a great job at blurring the lines between the two, and continues to do so.

You cannont blame our current situation on the democrats, there is plenty of blame to go both ways, but I also don't see how you can deny that the costs of war are not having a major impact on our economy. It may not be the root cause of our recession, but it has helped an economic lull snowball into a full blown and worsening recession.

[Bobby Headrick]

To answer the questions, I am a reg DEM but I am moderate on severl dem views, I am pro gun, pro choice with exceptions, pro gov control for some things, mostly things like NESSASITYS for the citizens, like FUEL, INS, FOOD, and UTILITYS, we need more oversite in these areas. Does not the present admins plan to buy up Mortages seem a little SOCILIST? The gov controling your house payment and mortage. Also the war should have focused on Afganistan and BIN LADEN as he was the main criminal in these attacks, we blew it here as we never finished our objective there as we focused on SADDAM and IRAQ, we threw the focus of the whole war, by going to IRAQ and made things worse for us. IRAQ did not ATTACK US, They had no so called weapons of mass destruction. BUSH commetted a crime by going to war UNPROVOKED and UNDER FALSE information.That is just plain fact.Bush also wanted the BAILOUT PLAN it was not only the Dem's and the mortage mess yes their is blame on the dems side, but saying that the war did not help hurt the economy is wrong, 10 billion a month is a lot of money that we do not have. The mortage mess was caused by GREED AND NOTHING MORE THAN GREED, AIG took another bailout and this time went to VEGAS. This is the stuff that hurt the economy both parties are to blame but Bush is the boss and if a company fails it is usually the leader that takes the BLAME.

[Devils Horse]

The mortgage mess was caused for the most part by Democrat politicians pandering for votes. Frank Raines who presided over much of the sub prime lending practices, and got stinking rich off it became a Barack Obama campaign advisor. It was Christopher Dodd, the Democrat house banking chairman who along with his Democrat colleagues stopped the Republican submitted bill to reign in foolish lending practices. (Just those hard hearted ole Republicans trying to stick it the poor and minorities again. Luckily we have the Dems, champions of the downtrodden.) Dodd and Obama received more campaign contributions from the lending oufits in question than any other politicians.

I agree both parties are to blame, the Dems for creating the mortgage crisis, and Reps for not making a better effort to prevent it. I also hold both parties responsible for stealing our money for the bailout. Thieves go to jail in America, but the executive and legislative branches of our government got away cleanly with one of the biggest heists in history. And they ain't done yet. Mitch McConnell can kiss my vote goodbye, but I'll abstain before voting for Bruce Lunsford.

Which brings me back to my main point. All things considered, how in the world can you vote for an even larger federal government?

[DJD]

You guys know doggone well that the Dems with their pity party for the weak and deprived had pushed for subprime lending to people who cannot pay the money back that fact has been established. Barney Frank is a nimrod for his denial on this. It also lends oneself to believe it was for the votes of these folks that the Dems always cater too. Goes back to Carter and Clinton and yes now both parties are enjoying the benefits of not having to take responsibility. Ol' Mel Brooks said it best...."it's good to be the king" because you can change the rules as you go and thats exactly what these numbnuts have done.

[Bobby Headrick]

Well if the ecomony keeps like it is going we all might be like "those people". Yes I will be the first one to agree that our Social programs are abused, missran, and some are downright stupid. I see people every day that have never hit a lick at anything but having babies, and that makes me sick. I do not agree with all the liberal stuff, nor all the conservitive stuff. I was raised REPUBLICAN, so I have some of those belives instilled in me from childhood, but I changed when the REPUBLICANS changed, this is not the party of my father and grandfathers, greed took it over like both parties. Some Gov programs are good, look if some of you get laid off you will sign up for unemployment, a GOV program, when you retire you will receive social security, a GOV program. You got student loans, gov program, fare housing thru VA or FHA, Gov programs. If you are young and have a child but youe employer offers no ins, you can get that child ins thru the GOV at little or no cost. If you lose your job and all your resources the Gov will get you food. That program is the most abused though, but when it is needed and deserved it is good, it jsut needs to be a temp program. Gov now is going into the banking and mortage business buying up bad debts. Gov Program pushed by and signed by Pres Bush, yes lending money to people who cannot pay them back was dumb on the Dems part had to be some repubs push for it also as Majority rules and this happened when the republicans were in control of the house and senate, correct me if I am wrong on that one. What is wrong with helping others in time of need? Is that not what Christians preach? After all the republican party has been the true christian party or so they say. I am one democrat that belives that you help people when they are down, but you also need to help them help theirselves. I am a firm beliver in time limits for food benifits and welfare, Clinton mandated a limit on welfare so now no one can draw over 1 yr. Food stamps need imroved on. Yes I am a democrat, a Moderate one, I belive in owning guns and I will fight my party about that and have called my DEMOCRAT Reps and voiced that. We need to quite the dem repub bias stuff and become AMERICANS again. It is up to the people to make a change and a difference. The trickle down theroy was a good idea butwhen the seive is plugged up by excess greed it does not trickle down it just stay in the seive.

[DJD]

Bobby,
I sure don't have the answers just opinions from a guy that works everyday and pays his bills on time. I am a Christian which makes me not perfect and thats the reason I became a Christian because I felt there had to be more to life than what we see. I was raised with a Baptist dad and Budhist Mom so now you know why I'm kinda off center sometimes!LOL. I get the feeling that the gubment wants more of my hard earned money and that ticks me off. My hats off to you because if I had to see what you see in the abuses of our system I would blow a gasket for sure! It's hard enough just hearing about it but seeing it first hand? That takes a special person. Have a good one my friend.

[Bobby Headrick]

Thanks Don, Yet it is hard doing this as some of the things are against my moral and social belives. That is why I love to fish, it takes me away from all of this, just me and nature. It is funny how a little fish, any fish can take your mind off the bigger problems in life. I am more in tune spirtually when out on the water or in the woods than anywhere I have found, even church. It makes me relize what we have and how we take it for granted. I was raised in rural America, and have also lived in the big citys, but I have never strayed far from my roots, wading creeks and just wandering around the woods,helped shape me into the person I am today, as nature has a way of humbling you.

[Tom523]

This is where our representatives step in and demand federal funding for federal mandates. I really believe that the federal government should stay out of our schools. Any increase in government means more control over the people. The people should take their schools back and teachers wages should be raised. Name another job that requires a masters degree and gets paid less. The real source of our problems in America are the continuously declining values. Parents are letting their kids be babysat by the TV and video games. But that's another subject. I fear that when the democrats like Pelosi and Obama get control the whole country will go to hell in a handbasket just like California.