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[Tim_T]

Yes, the Big East is way overrated since Louisville joined. That is why in the three years that Louisville has been a member the Big East Champion, in their BCS bowls have beaten the ACC champs, the Big 12 Champs and wait....hold for it...here it comes...the $EC champs. They also won the trophy for the best bowl record one of those years when they went 5-0 in bowl games.

Wait a minute...is Virginia Tech a national power under your definition? I keep getting confused because you keep changing the criteria.

[psprowler]

Yes, the Big East is way overrated since Louisville joined. That is why in the three years that Louisville has been a member the Big East Champion, in their BCS bowls have beaten the ACC champs, the Big 12 Champs and wait....hold for it...here it comes...the $EC champs. They also won the trophy for the best bowl record one of those years when they went 5-0 in bowl games.

Wait a minute...is Virginia Tech a national power under your definition? I keep getting confused because you keep changing the criteria.

You are correct about the bowl games, but bowl games alone do not entail the entire body of work for a season. If those were the only games played then yeah they were a great conference. Virginia Tech fans have way more reason than UofL fans to talk big, they did make it to the championship game in 99' with the dog fighter at QB. They got waxxed by Florida State. Haven't been relevant lately.

If Cincinnati had one less loss this year and won the rest of their games, they'd be this year's version of the 2006 Cards. Anybody think the bearcats have arrived on the scene as a national power? In this year's national title picture, Texas gets screwed by UC because Oklahoma beat UC earlier in the year, and that will "look" better on their resume because UC is a champ of a BCS conference. But the BigEast is weak this year. Nevermind the fact that Texas has the head-to-head victory over Oklahoma. But that's for the fishin.com Texas and Oklahoma non-discussion boards.

If you have any more questions fire away. I'm just a college football fanatic that looks at things objectively. I'm not a homer - I don't have a favorite team.

The Cardinals had one good year. One. Not 3 or 4, not 687. But one.

[Tim_T]

UC is going down tonight and I will be there to watch it (I don't really know how good UC is but with Klownthorpe at the helm we could lose three in a row).

Virginia Tech really only had one good year as well. Heck the struggled to beat Louisville in the Gator Bowl when the Cards were playing with a back up quarterback who was a walk-on redshirt freshman. So are the Cards on the same scale as Va. Tech?

[zx150]

That is why we need a college football tournament. Tim T I will see you there. I will be working the game but if it does not rain too hard I will be on the field.

[Tim_T]

That is why we need a college football tournament. Tim T I will see you there. I will be working the game but if it does not rain too hard I will be on the field.

Hey zx, I will be in section 223, in the corner near the crunch zone. I am walking out the door here in a few minutes. No tailgating for me tonight.

[psprowler]

Hope you guys took some ponchos it's one of those annoying rains.

[MrSplitshot]

Been watching the Cards and the Bearcats tonight and I've got to say for the Louisville fans here that you guys got JOBBED on the reversal of the First Down call late in the 4th Quarter. Whether the ball made it to the line might be debatable, but it most definitely did not get moved back a full yard!

That was a horrible call. I actually yelled at the refs...which kinda made me sorta somewhat rooting for Louisville...weird.

Maybe my basketball cats laying another big turd on the hardwood to VMI in Deja Vu Gardner Webb style tonight has made me soft.