Quote Originally Posted by apb View Post
To add to what DJD said, IF we give them the bail out, what assurances do we have that they'll do something different? A big part of the reason that the "big 3" are in such dire straights is that they've miss-managed the companies for years. I certainly would not be willing to give ANY bail out money if it was going to be business as usual. What changes do they plan to make IF they get bail out money?

btw, I thought the US was a capitalist society. Isn't a bail out socialist?

Andrew
It is less about mis-management, and MORE about UNIONS totally SCREWING corporate America.

Unions DESTROYED our automotive industry...........
Unions DESTROYED our air lines industry..........
Unions DESTROYED our small electronics industry
Unions DESTROYED our appliance industry
Unions DESTROYED....................etc, etc, etc.

Maybe, YEARS back unions were needed.....

BUT I say in todays competitive, GLOBAL market we need to compete. AND paying someone 70K a year to push a broom, while GIVING them health insurance and GIVING them a pension, and GIVING them bla, bla, bla.......is NOT competitive......

Look, I'm in an industry where my SKILLS determine if I have a job or not.......NOT some FAT lazy SLOB union negotiator.........AND I have to compete with Indian, Russian, and Chinese developers and Technical STAFF that come out of school infinitely better prepared than I EVER was.....but I continue to sharpen my skills........

We need to become competitive PERIOD............

Later,

Geo