My brother in law and his dad got off the main lake and went up into the creeks to find clearer water. All be it, they were fishing with Shiners but they did land a 5-12 Smallie and an 8 plus Striper plus several other small fish. They were finding their fish DEEP. Again this is all second hand info but I was actually on the phone with my Brother in Law when he hooked the big smallie and got to hear the entire fight including 2 big jumps and a great net job by his dad. He was stoked for the 5-12 now replaces his 5-11 as his biggest. She is still swimming in such no name creek for someone else to catch.