Someone Tell My WHY!!!

[mhall]

I saw on abc news where the average wage of the big3 with benefits included was like $70+ an hour, but Toyotas was like high 40's an hour. Guess which one is looking for the bailout?

Kinda elementary isn't it, lol.

[Col Forbin]

I saw on abc news where the average wage of the big3 with benefits included was like $70+ an hour, but Toyotas was like high 40's an hour. Guess which one is looking for the bailout?

The average teacher pay is around $34/hr - that is just for time spent at school, this does not include the twenty some hours per week that the average teacher spends on planning and other stuff outside of school. That seems a little backwards to me. Especially considering that all teachers are required to eventually earn a Masters degree.

[DJD]

The average teacher pay is around $34/hr - that is just for time spent at school, this does not include the twenty some hours per week that the average teacher spends on planning and other stuff outside of school. That seems a little backwards to me. Especially considering that all teachers are required to eventually earn a Masters degree.

You need a better union!

[Col Forbin]

You need a better union!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

[kygorski]

No you dont need a union, you need nonsense policies like no child left behind. Georgia is going forward with a plan to eventually do away with special education needs, and mainline all students, this is not going to end favorably. We will lower the educational standards to the lowest denominator. Who thinks this stuff up?

[bassin_bug]

No you dont need a union, you need nonsense policies like no child left behind. Georgia is going forward with a plan to eventually do away with special education needs, and mainline all students, this is not going to end favorably. We will lower the educational standards to the lowest denominator. Who thinks this stuff up?

The educational system has been screwed up for so many years. My precious one got caught in a reverse educational trap; she was bored in every school and constantly complaining. She was making all A's but there was no challenge for her and no place for her because she "aced" everything offered. We had her tested and her IQ was extremely high so we moved her to a school for gifted children which is an Academy of Math and Sciences. This year she won the science competition, went on to MSU for the state competition and took second place there. Imagine a 12 year-old demonstrating and explaining the chemical changes that occur in terrestial plants grown in a mineral nutrient reservoir vs hydroponics. I hate to think how many children there are, just like her, who have no one to be an advocate for them. It's easier, and cheaper, just to dumb the children down to the schools lowest level. What benefit will the unions be to children who are denied adequate education today but don't qualify for the job when they are adults tomorrow?

[GeoFisher]

The average teacher pay is around $34/hr - that is just for time spent at school, this does not include the twenty some hours per week that the average teacher spends on planning and other stuff outside of school. That seems a little backwards to me. Especially considering that all teachers are required to eventually earn a Masters degree.

CRY me a RIVER...........

* YOU ALSO get summers OFF.........
* YOU ALSO GET a PENSION......
* YOU ALSO GET FANTASTIC medical COVERAGE.

I'd gladly pay teachers............GOOD TEACHERS..........double that amount, but find me the GOOD TEACHERS............most I have ran into are UNION protected, tenured.........MORONS.

GET rid of the UNIONS in education, MAKE teachers PROVE they can TEACH, ENFORCE education guidelines.........THAT will make education in our system better.

Later,

Geo

[Col Forbin]

CRY me a RIVER...........

* YOU ALSO get summers OFF.........
* YOU ALSO GET a PENSION......
* YOU ALSO GET FANTASTIC medical COVERAGE.

I'd gladly pay teachers............GOOD TEACHERS..........double that amount, but find me the GOOD TEACHERS............most I have ran into are UNION protected, tenured.........MORONS.

GET rid of the UNIONS in education, MAKE teachers PROVE they can TEACH, ENFORCE education guidelines.........THAT will make education in our system better.

Later,

Geo

First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.

[bassin_bug]

First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.

Hats off to you Col Forbin. Here's my salute.

[mhall]

First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.

Keep fighting the good fight Kevin..

[GeoFisher]

If the big 3 reduced their cost by 2-3 thousand dollars would you buy American? If this is the case instead of a bail out, lets tax the non US owned car companies 3-4 thousand dollars per car/truck sold in the US, and give it to the big 3.

We already did something VERY similar to that in the late 70's early 80's. During the OIL embargo, Japan, and Korea started flooding are markets with CHEAPER, more economical vehicles. OUR illustrious government decided to TAX the HELL out of those cars.........something like 20 or 30 percent.

You wanna know what happened...........THE BIG 3 raised their vehicle prices to MATCH the taxes.........UNBELIEVABLE GREED.

LET them all file bankruptcy..........that will FORCE Labor to make concessions, hell they may even get RID of the unions, making the profitable AGAIN.

Later,

Geo