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    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

    Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

    I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

    I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

    I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.
    Hats off to you Col Forbin. Here's my salute.

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    Re: Someone Tell My WHY!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Col Forbin View Post
    First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

    Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

    I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

    I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

    I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.
    Keep fighting the good fight Kevin..

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    Re: Someone Tell My WHY!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by geobass View Post
    If the big 3 reduced their cost by 2-3 thousand dollars would you buy American? If this is the case instead of a bail out, lets tax the non US owned car companies 3-4 thousand dollars per car/truck sold in the US, and give it to the big 3.
    We already did something VERY similar to that in the late 70's early 80's. During the OIL embargo, Japan, and Korea started flooding are markets with CHEAPER, more economical vehicles. OUR illustrious government decided to TAX the HELL out of those cars.........something like 20 or 30 percent.

    You wanna know what happened...........THE BIG 3 raised their vehicle prices to MATCH the taxes.........UNBELIEVABLE GREED.

    LET them all file bankruptcy..........that will FORCE Labor to make concessions, hell they may even get RID of the unions, making the profitable AGAIN.

    Later,

    Geo

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