Someone Tell My WHY!!!

[bassin_bug]

One other thing to consider is the American people are getting fed up with this free money for everybody crap. I read the other day where that President of Ford recieved over 50 million dollars last year in combined compensation. Now you know the other two was about the same.
These wages are being paid to him and a cast of understudies at companies that are going FREAKING BANKRUPT. Sorry guys I don't feel sorry for the American Greed biting these CROOKS in the rear end. It's their own fault and the INSANE Union mentality of today's time that has caused their demise.
Grumpy is a 100% correct this cycle will now have no end and will balloon to Biblical proportions. Free money for everybody, Yee Pee, Free money.

I heard one of the "Big 3" automakers CEO say that he would not accept a salary for next year. Whoop-de-doo! With all the bonuses he receives I'm sure he won't be standing in line at the Soup Kitchen. I didn't hear all that was said but did notice that no one asked him, or anyone else, if they would also refuse the bonuses they get. The government needs to rip some "golden parachutes" and let the suckers fall flat. Then they would know how the regular working stiff feels every morning when he/she heads out to work.

The politicians are in bed with the banking industry and CEOs of major corporations. This bailout thing has become a runaway train on a very long track with nobody in charge, no accountability, nothing but rivers of money flowing into deep pockets.

[Bobby Headrick]

AMEN TO ALL. and like that ad on TV, IT'S MY MONEY AND I WANT IN NOW.

[geobass]

I agree. But with that said. The big 3 have retirees that Toyota, Honda,ect that are produced in the US do not have. They also have unions. Unions had there place in the early days but in our world wide market of today, I feel they do not. The other non US manufactures also received subsidies from their home countries. We have seen far too many of our own US companies move off shore for a variety of reasons. The steel mills for one. In the past the US was the manufacturing center of the world, but no longer can we claim that. If we were to loose any more manufacturing jobs what will we become? A country of consumers? We only have ourselves to blame. WE are the ones that put this and the new congress in office! What ever happens is OUR fault. Call, write, or e-mail you elected officals and let them know what YOU think should be done.
If the big 3 reduced their cost by 2-3 thousand dollars would you buy American? If this is the case instead of a bail out, lets tax the non US owned car companies 3-4 thousand dollars per car/truck sold in the US, and give it to the big 3.

[psprowler]

I saw on abc news where the average wage of the big3 with benefits included was like $70+ an hour, but Toyotas was like high 40's an hour. Guess which one is looking for the bailout?

[mhall]

I saw on abc news where the average wage of the big3 with benefits included was like $70+ an hour, but Toyotas was like high 40's an hour. Guess which one is looking for the bailout?

Kinda elementary isn't it, lol.

[Col Forbin]

I saw on abc news where the average wage of the big3 with benefits included was like $70+ an hour, but Toyotas was like high 40's an hour. Guess which one is looking for the bailout?

The average teacher pay is around $34/hr - that is just for time spent at school, this does not include the twenty some hours per week that the average teacher spends on planning and other stuff outside of school. That seems a little backwards to me. Especially considering that all teachers are required to eventually earn a Masters degree.

[DJD]

The average teacher pay is around $34/hr - that is just for time spent at school, this does not include the twenty some hours per week that the average teacher spends on planning and other stuff outside of school. That seems a little backwards to me. Especially considering that all teachers are required to eventually earn a Masters degree.

You need a better union!

[Col Forbin]

You need a better union!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

[kygorski]

No you dont need a union, you need nonsense policies like no child left behind. Georgia is going forward with a plan to eventually do away with special education needs, and mainline all students, this is not going to end favorably. We will lower the educational standards to the lowest denominator. Who thinks this stuff up?

[bassin_bug]

No you dont need a union, you need nonsense policies like no child left behind. Georgia is going forward with a plan to eventually do away with special education needs, and mainline all students, this is not going to end favorably. We will lower the educational standards to the lowest denominator. Who thinks this stuff up?

The educational system has been screwed up for so many years. My precious one got caught in a reverse educational trap; she was bored in every school and constantly complaining. She was making all A's but there was no challenge for her and no place for her because she "aced" everything offered. We had her tested and her IQ was extremely high so we moved her to a school for gifted children which is an Academy of Math and Sciences. This year she won the science competition, went on to MSU for the state competition and took second place there. Imagine a 12 year-old demonstrating and explaining the chemical changes that occur in terrestial plants grown in a mineral nutrient reservoir vs hydroponics. I hate to think how many children there are, just like her, who have no one to be an advocate for them. It's easier, and cheaper, just to dumb the children down to the schools lowest level. What benefit will the unions be to children who are denied adequate education today but don't qualify for the job when they are adults tomorrow?

[GeoFisher]

The average teacher pay is around $34/hr - that is just for time spent at school, this does not include the twenty some hours per week that the average teacher spends on planning and other stuff outside of school. That seems a little backwards to me. Especially considering that all teachers are required to eventually earn a Masters degree.

CRY me a RIVER...........

* YOU ALSO get summers OFF.........
* YOU ALSO GET a PENSION......
* YOU ALSO GET FANTASTIC medical COVERAGE.

I'd gladly pay teachers............GOOD TEACHERS..........double that amount, but find me the GOOD TEACHERS............most I have ran into are UNION protected, tenured.........MORONS.

GET rid of the UNIONS in education, MAKE teachers PROVE they can TEACH, ENFORCE education guidelines.........THAT will make education in our system better.

Later,

Geo

[Col Forbin]

CRY me a RIVER...........

* YOU ALSO get summers OFF.........
* YOU ALSO GET a PENSION......
* YOU ALSO GET FANTASTIC medical COVERAGE.

I'd gladly pay teachers............GOOD TEACHERS..........double that amount, but find me the GOOD TEACHERS............most I have ran into are UNION protected, tenured.........MORONS.

GET rid of the UNIONS in education, MAKE teachers PROVE they can TEACH, ENFORCE education guidelines.........THAT will make education in our system better.

Later,

Geo

First, tenure as well as unions do not protect against incompetence. If you are seeing that many incompetent teachers - blame the administrators, not the teachers. An effective administrator will get rid of lowsy teachers, and promote professionalism among staff.

Second, I get 6-8 weeks off in the summer. I spend more than half of those weeks on attending or offering trainings for other teachers, as well as continued education through graduate classes (paid for by me). We have had the retirement discussion before, and I get the same healt benefits as any state worker.

I can comment that I think the state teacher's union is a joke, and I refuse to join. I am one of very few teachers in our district that will not join. Partly because I don't make enough money to afford their fees, but mostly because I don't think there is a need to be a part of a union.

I was ust making a point about the overpayment of workers in the auto industry, not the underpayment of teachers. I would like to make more, and feel we should make a little more - but the points you made, make it all worthwhile for me.

I do want to thank you for wanting to double my salary. I consider myself to be one of the competent ones. I was one of ten teachers in the state, whose assessment materials were selected as the exemplars or models for trainings and assessment development for children with significant disabilities throughout the state.