Sharing information....

[elnutsmalljaws]

I get several PM's a week asking for FNF information be it about the technique, how or where to fish (no spots but type of water or structure), to request from several that want to go fishing with me for the fly. I always have answered them in the most honest most detailed manner that I can and there are SEVERAL on here that have asked and received DETAILED PM's from me regarding any information that I can give be it FNF mostly but also about Ky Lake, even met fellas at the ramp at KY Lake the last day of a trip and personally took them to where I was catching fish because they had a 2 day club tourney that weekend. I even typed up a long PM to a fella on here asking about fishing cumberland, which I don't do, but I explained in DETAIL how I would go about doing it and he went out and had 7 boated on Friday and he sent a PM thanking me for the information. But information is also a 2 ways street. I had 2 different people sending me PM's before my week long trip last week with my buddy Cliff. I answered both of them in DETAIL again as usual, then we went out and had a very frustrating week with only 1 good day out of 5, that being thursday. But according to follow up post and pm's I see that these same 2 people SLAYED them the same week. THese 2 that were begging for information because the can't catch fish on the fly pretty much caught 10-1 for the week versus what we caught. I reply to both of them nicely asking what did they figure out that pretty much moved it from the craphouse to the penthouse and both of them said in not exactly the same words but meaning the same thing "we found something out and we will keep it to ourselves". Sure does want me to ask Peter to delete my article that I was asked to write, that several had asked Peter to ask me to write, that has since been copied on other sites (with my permission). Sure does make me want to "Keep whatever I know to myself in the future" for it does not pay to type up DETAILED information, give out your personal cell phone and offer any other help to any STRANGER that sends me a PM if when the time comes I just ask a simple question of what did you figure out and get rejected. I did not ask for honey hole gps cordinates but basic overview of what did they do different that what we did. This is fine with me because not saying I am any better than anyone else when it comes to the FNF but you can bet your last dollar that unless I have fished with you, you have your phone number programmed in my cell, or I know you personally, I have given out my last bit of DETAILED information to STRANGERS. WHen I say STRANGERS, I am not saying those that I have a personal relationship with be it email, phone or in person, basically if I can trust you to offer the same type of info in return I will still help but as far as the rogue email coming in from people that I have no clue about, I will not help and appologize in advance but this has left a REAL BAD TASTE IN MY MOUTH. Have a nice day and hope you catch a bunch the next time you go. For me, just got back from 2 days at Dale, going back Thursday for 3 more days and mid january for another 5 around the MLK holiday at least. Elnut

[phoenix]

Don't blame you one bit Elnut. I don't want to be associated with anyone like that either. I have run up on a few. You would think fellow fisherman are always willing to help anyone......guess the world is a different place this day in time.

[shawnrd81]

That is messed up. I would do the same thing. I try to help people on here as much as I can not that I am any good but I try and would like the same in return that is what makes this site so great.

[Trophycats]

Elnut..I know where you are coming from. It takes all types. I will share a story with you, that is along the same lines.

I had a guy call me several years ago, to book a trip for Trophy Catfish. He booked a couple of months out, and would call every week just to discuss catfishing. Wanted to know everything, where we was going to catch bait, what area we were going to fish in, how deep, the whole nine yards. He knew exactly where we were going to meet, as he said he had caught bait there prior.

Well the morning of the trip, I was at the boat ramp 30 mins early, like always and the guy is a No-Show. I waited 2 hours and he never showed, would never answer his cell phone, all i would get was his voice mail.

I never heard from the guy till over a year later, he called me and finally admitted that he never had any intentions of fishing with me. He had come down here the week prior and was going to fish on his own and figure it out (save the price of a guide. He also said that when he came down he never got to fish, as he was backing his boat in, he tore his prop up backing it into the water. And as he was pulling out of the parking lot he got hit by a truck, messed his boat up pretty bad. Oh well, it might be bad of me but i thought it was poetic justice.

Needless to say, from that point on, I require a deposit. At least that would have paid for my gas.

And I dont blame you a bit, I only share info with a few close friends now.

Warren

[21ssExtreme]

I agree with what you are saying, most guys think that they are KVD and everything is top secret. My only question is how do you get so nuch time to fish, 2 days, 3 days, 5 days, in 4 weeks time? I can't stand it, I walk by my boat in the morning and evening to go to work, please tell me how.

[know1]

I think tournaments are a detriment to our pasttime and the people who participate in it.

[21ssExtreme]

I don't think it is the tourneys, I fish them when I can but would still help anyone anytime I could. I might have a question sometime and hope I would get an helpful reply. I think it is just how some people are wired. I live in the Knox, TN area but that board is dead from all of the KVD's over there that I have to lurd on this side.

[DJD]

I wouldn''t go so far as to say detriment but I will say that ALOT of guys do lose themselves in the me, me, me mentality of the tournaments. Been around alot of fine people who fish tournaments but as with any sport the bad always exists.

[elnutsmalljaws]

I agree with what you are saying, most guys think that they are KVD and everything is top secret. My only question is how do you get so nuch time to fish, 2 days, 3 days, 5 days, in 4 weeks time? I can't stand it, I walk by my boat in the morning and evening to go to work, please tell me how.

My doctor still has not released me to go back to work even though he knows I am well enough to go fishing. I have asked to be released but due to the pretty major infection that I have had since October he wants to run a bunch of test and wait for the results before releasing me. I go on Tuesday for the test and it will take a week or so for all the results to come back. When you work for the state like I do and have been off as long as I have, they are pretty serious in that they have to have that doctor saying I am well enough to return to work in hopes of no relapses later. To tell you how, get sick have 8 surgeries in 18 months and throw in collapsed lung, pneumonia, major staff infection - TWICE, pass 9 kidney stones (1 of which required surgery until I passed it 1 hour before surgery then bled for 2 hours), plus Pseudomonus infection which is worse than MRSA that you hear about today and trust me, you won't be working and they won't want you back until you are well. Elnut

[21ssExtreme]

Ouch, thats a tough way to get time off, I was hoping that you had found the secret. Sounds like you are on the road to recovery, good luck and enjoy the fishing while you can. Hope to see you on the lake sometime soon, I also do think it is ever to cold to fish, just keeps a lot of boats out of the way. Jeff

[dc chopper]

I know what you mean Woody, I have helped several out at T-ville and actually had one tell me that I was on the money in an area and lure but he "found a spot on the spot" I put him on and wouldn't even tell me what area it was in ( I sent him to several) I have made it no secret the way I fish T-ville and how many big fish we catch there doing it that way. I may never give anyone a certain spot to fish but I will usually put them in an area that has been productive. But you know, I hate to ask anyone for info, because your just not for sure they are being honest anyway. There are certain ones on here that I have never met but would believe if they told me they had 5 feet of snow in July, not calling anyone out but just talikng it with a big grain... bottle of salt!

[MsgMills]

Don't blame you as bit Elnut.....I hope their lines break now everytime they hook a fish.......Serves them right......Now where did you say to go for that 12lb smally you are stalking....lol