I'm no wildlife biologist I'm just going by the information shown to me by the conservation officer that gave me the carcass tags. Three different skulls of bucks were found and you could definetly tell the difference at the bases of the antlers if the had been rubbing or not. Two were still in velvet and one was not.One grossed over 150 the other two were around 140.(two ten pointers and an eleven) No matter what the case is still ***** that all these mature bucks were killed because of the EHD outbreak. Hopefully it doesn't happen again.