I was just trying to get a consensus. I use 50# Cortland braid when flipping in grass, I use the Palomar knot and have never broken a Knot while flipping (using the Palomar). I wasn't sure about wood cover but that makes sense that fluorocarbon would slip past the wood better than braid. But what if your fishing a lake that has both wood and grass do you need two flippin' sticks?...can you get by with using braid around wood?