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This alcohol tax is BS.
30 counties, one-fourth, 25%, etc are now responsible for making up the tax deficit for the entire state. KY alcohol is taxed 60% higher than the national average...a good way to treat your biggest product.
I think if this tax is going to truly help it should be mandatory for EVERY COUNTY in Kentucky to allow alcohol sales 24 hours a day seven days a week.
Senior Member
Should have repealed the Prevailing Wages imposed on us by the Union....er I mean Patton.
Senior Member
why u have bumped your head.... why would i want to work for 12 dollars an hour on a construction job in ky when now i can work on that same job i can make 24 dollars an hour.. i am not affiliated with a union and have worked on both private and state funded construction jobs and i am just going to say that prevailing wage jobs are way better.. u makje double what u would with the right to work.... it aint greedy on my behalf and for those people that still work in the construction world and make prevailing wage i am sure they feel the same as me.. why make less to do the same job.......Originally Posted by DJD
Senior Member
Your thinking is what is wrong with the big 3. Unions in general are what is wrong with our country. I'm so anti union it makes be sick. I do not see where unions (at this time) do any good for anyone. Years ago yes! Now are they are doing are increasing the cost of everything.
Now with that said, I would not EVER buy a non-american car/truck. In fact just bought a new Ford and love it. You see, Ford has not taken the goverment hand out.(yet).
Senior Member
i bet you wouldnt be saying the same thing if your pay got cut in half to do the same job.... this is how people make a living either make a 12 an hour with the right to work law or 24 an hour with scale and prevailing wage.. i am sorry but i want more money to pay the bills with and have more disposable income... i am not the one that is wrong you are for thinking that its ok to pay someone less money to do the same job...... because i have worked construction most my life and i love knocking down 1000 dollars in 4 days versus working 5 or 6 adn brinign home 450 or 500 i am sorry but thats how i feel....
Senior Member
OK so yousave a lot of money hiring a non union contractor. My company did just that on a plant turn around. They needed to do half the work over because the welders were unskilled at high pressure stainless steel piping.And later some othjer welds failed,if you want a skilled journey men, pay the rate, if you want to hire a yahoo to save money are you?OK so you hate unions, do you hate the american bar asociation? The AMA, these are unions myfriend, of manufactorig,even most police forces have a bpa.Do you think 5.85 is a living wage?I worked in northern indiana, and it was flooded by you southernindiana guys working for better wages.And when they retired, they went back home, and many of them lived good.
Senior Member
So lets get this straight. A union worker in NYC working at a Burger King makes $30 an hour, because it is NYC. And a union worker at Burger King Berea should make $30 an hour?
It is called cost of living, regional adjustments. If 60% of the people are union workers making $50 an hour, could the other 40% afford anything?
Ryan, you should go into politics. Then you could tell ceo's that they should only make $500m a year.
People work for all kinds of companies for all sorts of reasons and for all types of wages. The owners of those companies are the reason our country is so great. It is not goverment, it is US the people. The number one cost to a company is labor. Why do you think some have gone elsewhere. The person who makes $24 thinks he should make $30 and the person that makes $12 thinks he should make $24. Be happy with what you are making now, so many are not making anything.
Senior Member
lets see this has nothing to do with nyc or anywheres close... unless u are jealous cause u dont make that prevailing wage then there shouldnt be no problems... the people that make the prevailing wage are very experienceed adn know what they are doing thats just like telling someone that works in a big highrise for an insurance company they make to much...that is just wrong to tell someone they make to much.... especially a construction worker... someone who has to brave the elements and work outside in a ditch and do hazardous work on the road while u fly by at 80 mph in your mercedes cause u are late to get a manicure... give me a break man..... unless u have worked construction and know what we have to do and i aint talking about building a house i am talking heavy construction.... standing on a 24 inch wide platform 40 foot high while a crane operator swings a 2 ton bucket of concrete over your head so u can pour it in the wall... and it either 100 degrees or 0 and the wind is blowing the crane and its wobbly.... u know that governor fletcher tried to do get rid of prevailing wage and thousands came and protested it......that is taking food from someones table...
Senior Member
See the post by dakota kid.Those mexicans maybe will do a good job, and maybe they wont, but it will cost himless now, BUT what if they screw up?And where will those illegal workers gp for medical care, does dakota have health insurance for them?Or will they, like they do in many cases go to an emergency room, get treatment, and not pay any of the bills.Are they paying socialsecurity taxes on the wages dakota pays them? is dakota paying his part of it, or is some contractor just using day labor, and not following any of the things that are lawfully obligated to him? I'm pretty surethat skilled labor in the louisville area is pretty busy right now fixing storm dam,age, so maybe dakota didn't have any choice, cant fault him there, its what most of us would do. Burger king might pay 10 bucks an hour in NYC, but in atlanta pedro worked for 6 bucks, and screwed up my order twice. so I cancelled the whole thing, and went to wendys, did burger king save money?
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Hey Ryan, these people arguing against the right to work law and the unions are just your typical republicans. They for the most part are very selfish and greedy and don't feel like guys out busting their butts to build America in very dangerous situations and heights deserve a decent living for thier family. Most construction owners around these parts would rather pay a guy 8 to 10 dollars an hour and reep the beneifits of the profits made. Thats why Unions were organized so the hard working men and women get the money that they deserve. Yeah the price is high for a union to come in and do a job, but you can't really put a price on a mans life. I am in union and have been on several dangerous jobs, some unimaginable! As for the guy who said that unions is whats wrong with this country, well he lives in a union! The USA! I dont feel that the unions broke the state, or the nation, I feel it is all the corupt spending and bonuses by the politicans DEMS and REPS, and the price of OIL! Thats what put this nation under! To sum it up I just feel like a man deserves a decent living
Senior Member
WHAT........the MONEY you can make is the MONEY you DESERVE.......if you're not making enough..........find a different JOB. If you think you're being screwed by the MAN.......become your OWN MAN, and go out and form your OWN COMPANY......I mean, get real. You are WORTH what someone is willing to pay.....PERIOD. When government comes in and artifically inflates what you're WORTH, prices go up.
I'm worth MORE than any of my co workers, because I'm in a POSITION to demand more.....WHEN I'm not in that position........I will be out on my BUTT, but while I'm in it..........I will DEMAND MORE.........
As I told Ryan...........obtain more education, learn a different skill. TURN the TABLES on the BOSS, and become the BOSS.
Later,
Geo
Senior Member
What the h... does this have to do with being a republican. I would consider it a conservative to be wise with my money, your money or a compaines money. And what does a union have to do with a qualifed worker? All I have seen from unions is members money being spent on trying to get more members no matter what. If I was a high rise steel worker and lived in Kentucky making $15 an hour, and I could move to Washington and make $30, I would look into the cost of living in Washington and if it made sense, I would move. The living wage is a pipe dream, I know this sounds harsh but it is a fact of life. The american dream is to work hard, get a good education, take responsibility for yourself, and you will succeed.
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