Hey steve, just got back from laurel today, fished a couple hours water temp around flatwoods was around 43.5 and up in frozen camp was almost 45----never took a hit that i know of lost around 20 bucks in spoons/buddies. Talked to a guy that said fish and wildlife stocked trout this past week, i never seen the first one, but you can see shad dying everywhere, seems like you could wack em with the fnf(i tried that too) if i were putting in at holly bay i would probably go to craigs creek and fish the points, always look at your graph---if you can graph fish suspended the fly usually works, on the other hand if your seeing fish on the bottom have a spoon or buddy ready, good luck and post your results, tcobb



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