Flourocarbon Line

[offdtop]

Gander Mountain in Paducah does NOT have InviZ-X all they have is the carbon pro - yuck was there earlier today

[swimjigboy]

I too have bought a ton of flouro. First no matter what line I put on after about 3 of 4 cranks I take a small towel soak a spot on it with the KVD stuff. They say any silicone spray at the hardware store is the same thing. Hold the towel in hand w/line through it and then reel it on. And spray reel a few as well every so often. Vanish feels gross right off the spool but didn't break alot in 17lb and up. It was awful in any other pd test. Pline and BPS XPS and the seaguar that I tried was super stiff. Last year I did fish all spring with the pline halo no breakage and even crankin the stuff was fine but 10lb test memory etc didn't last long. The 100% flouro on my openbail 8lb on St. clair with a tube LOVED IT! Feel was completely different and out fish dad's excel 5 to 1 in that clear blue stuff up there. Going to try Vicious flouro this year got 17 and 12. Price was reason vs getting the 100%flouro.
Like the fireline crystal and even caught a few without tying a leader. Hate tying leaders! If I didn't mind the leaders so much I probably buy fireline solar. Keep spraying reel here and there, just be careful can clog up reel.

[dsonthelake84]

In my opinion, the bass pro xps is the best flouro. I spray reel magic on it about every 50 75 cast and never gets in a bind. Its like the kvd but cheaper. You can get it a walmart.

[dc chopper]

I used p-line flouro in Canada 3 years ago on a shimano spinning reel, didn't have any problems. Still use it today. No kink problems either.

[swimjigboy]

In my opinion, the bass pro xps is the best flouro. I spray reel magic on it about every 50 75 cast and never gets in a bind. Its like the kvd but cheaper. You can get it a walmart.

I got some a week ago 8 & 10 but took it back today. Got it because the price, being on sale right now! But it felt like little nicks all over the line fresh out the box.
All of the new seaguars felt great right out of the box, smooth very hard to know what the difference is between the 4 types. My pline floro clear is in halo green now and it felt smooth as well. Still didn't buy anything though trying to wait right before I go on the water. Plus can't decide either!

[wishniwasfishn]

Here is the information on how kvd line conditoner works, and its benefits. If anyone here on this boards wants to order some of the kvd line conditoner, I can make you a great deal on it, since I am on their field staff. Just IM me and I will tell you how to get it a good discount.


"I would like to point out a few “dynamics” of our product that will help you better understand some of the benefits an angler can expect with the regular use of Line & Lure and why it is miles ahead of the others line products.

The only real commercial competition for Line & Lure is Blakemore’s Reel Magic. It needs to be stated that oil based preparations like WD-40 and Reel Magic have been around since the 1960’s and were used to address corrosion issues on reels and some of the problems that anglers were experiencing with monofilament line memory, the predominant line of the time.

Reel Magic and WD-40 are light oil with added petroleum distillates. Many of these distillates or solvents as they are commonly called are listed as toxic agents by the EPA and on the product’s label. The oil adds some level of lubrication to line but is very temporary. Just how temporary these products are, can easily be observed when casting after a fresh application. One will plainly see the oil slick it leaves on the water surface. We anglers love the waterways that we fish, so why would we use or condone the use of toxic products that wash into lakes, rivers and bays?

Reel Magic and WD-40 do have a relaxing effect on the corkscrew memory that we see in monofilament line due to the petroleum solvents added to it. Unfortunately, these solvents reduce memory by literally dissolving the outer surface of the line, making it softer but thereby weakening it. The continued use of these products, can contribute up to a 50 % loss of monofilament’s line strength. When these products are used on braid/super lines they can strip the finish that the factory coats these lines with. The finish is on these lines are to protect the Spectra fibers from wear. The removal of this coating leads to premature wear and “fraying of the fibers. If that wasn’t bad enough, these oils and solvents sprayed onto reel spools are also potentially getting into the reel’s moving parts including bearings, gears and seals. The very nature of the oil in these products draws and holds dirt to these parts, negatively affecting their performance and lifespan. The solvents in the products are known to degrade the seals and greases that the manufacturer built into the reel to protect the inner moving parts. Ask any professional reel repair technician and chances are that he will agree.

On the other hand, Line & Lure contains no oil or solvents. It is a blend of non-toxic, polymers that are not found in any other “line dressing or conditioner”. The proprietary polymer blend in Line & Lure imparts a coating to line that actually bonds to the line’s surface. In theory, this bond becomes a permanent part of the line. The only way to remove this coating is to abrade it from the line, by friction. The polymers fill any line surface imperfections and create a very uniform and smooth microscopic coating on the line. This smooth surface is inherently more resistant to wear by friction than is untreated line. In this case, this phenomenon provides multiple benefits.

First, as friction does start to attack the line (as it goes through the rod guides, over obstacles, etc.), the polymer acts as a sacrificial buffer to that friction. Practically, our replaceable polymer finish wears instead of the line itself. This of course extends the line’s life tremendously.

Secondarily, these polymers are extremely hydrophobic, meaning that they literally push water away at the molecular level. This hydrophobic action reduces the amount of water that is retained on the line during a retrieve. It is this water surface tension on the reel spool that is a major contributor to casting distance restriction. This phenomenon is further demonstrated when we take into consideration the reduction in backlash that anglers find when using Line & Lure with bait casting reels.
This surface tension principle is the same thing that one experience when they pick up a sweating drinking glass and find the coaster being picked up with the glass. The less water on the line, the less the resistance caused by surface tension. This equals much longer casts and fewer backlashes! Less water on spinning reels means less line blowout and the resulting knots.

It is also easy to see that with less water retention on the line there will be less contaminants coming back up on to the reel. This is especially important when fishing in saltwater. As we all know, it is the salt crystals that form in-between the loops of line on reels that cause a lot of the wear damage to fishing line. This salt also invades the seals on reels and over time acts like sandpaper wearing on reel components. Just as on the line, the polymers in line & Lure protect the seals from the elements, helping keeping them in prime condition. The anticorrosive properties of Line & Lure also dramatically reduce corrosion damage to rod, reel and artificial bait surfaces. Simply put, Line & Lure greatly extends the useful life of fishing equipment, tools, lines and baits.

Line and lure contains extremely high sunscreen protection. This sunscreen blocks the UV rays from sunlight. UV radiation has a massively destructive effect on fishing line. Fishing line can literally burn at about half the rate as unprotected human skin! Using Line & Lure on your line is equivalent to using an SPF 30 on your skin. The competition has no more UV protection then baby oil.

Anglers are very happy with the benefits that they get using Line & Lure on monofilament line, but please keep in mind that Line & Lure was primarily designed by Kevin VanDam and RMR Industries to address the inherent problems anglers experience with fluorocarbon, co-polymers and braided lines. Other line dressings have little or no positive effect on these hi-tech lines."