I don't like to throw braid for topwater, no strectch and i rip it out of the fishes mouth alot, i can't control myself? But for ultralight fishing you can get a 10lb braid that has the diam of 4lb mono, and also take into consideration that all this new line cost a mini fortune? At times i don't know that its worth $100 to go out and and buy line to spool up 5 rods?