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    Re: New coach for UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJM View Post
    Well in 96 Calipari was coaching the Minute men, and then made at the time a small jump in conference strength to Conference USA power Memphis. Now memphis is loaded in a horrible conference that only parellels the A-10 in basketball, since UC and Uof L left. QUOTE]

    Actually you missed a step. Calipari left UMass to coach in the NBA with the New Jersey Nets.
    Ahh, yes, did forgot about that. thank you.

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    Re: New coach for UK

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    I didn't think this year was going to be a solid year. I just didn't expect it to get this bad.
    That sums a lot of it up for me. I didn't expect this to be a good year, but I also didn't expect the wheels to fall off the wagon. When you have Meeks and Patterson on the floor, you should be winning more games. I know that 2 players don't make a team, but come on...

    I'm not a fan of Billy's stubborn attitude. (ie: refusing to play and zone defense)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's head games. (ie: "sending a message" to the starters in the Georgia game in the second half, but making the message last several minutes...enough to let Georgia grab a nice lead. In a game that critical, maybe a 1 minute sit and talk, but no more.)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's X-O in game adjustments, because I haven't seen enough of them. (ie: In the South Carolina loss we came out in the second half and did exactly what kept getting us stuffed in the first half...virtually no change in game plan. I guess this could also be under the stubborn heading too.)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's PR skills.
    (ie: The way he talks to the media, his little halftime interview smart aleck comments, his horrific post game pressers...he's representing the university to a huge national audience, the same university that the degree on my wall comes from...and there's no sense being a prick. He's uncomfortable, jittery, can't sit still, uses words like "really" and "whipped" waaaaaay too much. He reminds me of a drunk that's been off the bottle a little too long. (think "Shooter" from Hoosiers) He's standoffish and comes off condescending. Show that you're a leader, not just on the court and in practice, but when you talk to the fanbase via the media. "Coach" doesn't end when you step off the court. For what you pay these guys, they ought to be able to put together some halfway decent dialogue.

    I'm not a fan of Billy's personal antics. (I know a lot of the stuff you hear is rumor, and that's that...but we know there have been some DUIs at other schools...and some of the things I've heard from pretty reputable sources about town are not good. Definitely wouldn't post anything I didn't know to be true for sure. Again, personal life is personal life, but when you take a job that's this high profile, you're forfeiting some of it. Sorry. Ask the President about his personal life.)

    Now with ALL of that said...it might surprise you to hear me say that I don't think he ought to be set free at this point. His big strength is supposed to be recruiting and player development. Well, let's give him the time to get some of his recruits in here and work with them. Let's see what happens with that. Firing him would look horrible on the university, make it hell on getting a good new coach, and cause more problems. I have not been shown that he's a good coach yet, but this fanbase needs to have the patience to give him a fair shot. (And we absolutely don't have that patience as a whole, no doubt.) We don't have to like him all that much, but we should support our coach...because like it or not, that's what he is right now. I see this in the same way that you should never...NEVER...FRIGGIN NEVER...BOO your own kids on the court. That is absolutely classless. Bashing coach is a little more acceptable, but still.

    You can't, as a coach, go out there and make the plays yourself. You (a) teach them the plays, (b) tell them what plays to run, and (c) motivate them to WANT to run them under your philosophies as a coach. You've either got some dud players, or you've got a coach that can't put A+B+C into place. I like the idea of 4 years. Year #2 is drawing to a close. We should see improvement in #3, and contention for a conference title in #4. If not, time to look at the options and excercise one at that point.

    We need to beat Florida today...in the worst way...I just finished setting up the TV and surround sound at the new crib so that I can christen it by watching the game today at 2:00 so I hope the boys don't let me down. Beat the gators and win a couple in the conference tourney, and I think we can eek into the big dance.

    GO BILLY. GO CATS!

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    Re: New coach for UK

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSplitshot View Post
    That sums a lot of it up for me. I didn't expect this to be a good year, but I also didn't expect the wheels to fall off the wagon. When you have Meeks and Patterson on the floor, you should be winning more games. I know that 2 players don't make a team, but come on...

    I'm not a fan of Billy's stubborn attitude. (ie: refusing to play and zone defense)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's head games. (ie: "sending a message" to the starters in the Georgia game in the second half, but making the message last several minutes...enough to let Georgia grab a nice lead. In a game that critical, maybe a 1 minute sit and talk, but no more.)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's X-O in game adjustments, because I haven't seen enough of them. (ie: In the South Carolina loss we came out in the second half and did exactly what kept getting us stuffed in the first half...virtually no change in game plan. I guess this could also be under the stubborn heading too.)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's PR skills. (ie: The way he talks to the media, his little halftime interview smart aleck comments, his horrific post game pressers...he's representing the university to a huge national audience, the same university that the degree on my wall comes from...and there's no sense being a prick. He's uncomfortable, jittery, can't sit still, uses words like "really" and "whipped" waaaaaay too much. He reminds me of a drunk that's been off the bottle a little too long. (think "Shooter" from Hoosiers) He's standoffish and comes off condescending. Show that you're a leader, not just on the court and in practice, but when you talk to the fanbase via the media. "Coach" doesn't end when you step off the court. For what you pay these guys, they ought to be able to put together some halfway decent dialogue.

    I'm not a fan of Billy's personal antics. (I know a lot of the stuff you hear is rumor, and that's that...but we know there have been some DUIs at other schools...and some of the things I've heard from pretty reputable sources about town are not good. Definitely wouldn't post anything I didn't know to be true for sure. Again, personal life is personal life, but when you take a job that's this high profile, you're forfeiting some of it. Sorry. Ask the President about his personal life.)

    Now with ALL of that said...it might surprise you to hear me say that I don't think he ought to be set free at this point. His big strength is supposed to be recruiting and player development. Well, let's give him the time to get some of his recruits in here and work with them. Let's see what happens with that. Firing him would look horrible on the university, make it hell on getting a good new coach, and cause more problems. I have not been shown that he's a good coach yet, but this fanbase needs to have the patience to give him a fair shot. (And we absolutely don't have that patience as a whole, no doubt.) We don't have to like him all that much, but we should support our coach...because like it or not, that's what he is right now. I see this in the same way that you should never...NEVER...FRIGGIN NEVER...BOO your own kids on the court. That is absolutely classless. Bashing coach is a little more acceptable, but still.

    You can't, as a coach, go out there and make the plays yourself. You (a) teach them the plays, (b) tell them what plays to run, and (c) motivate them to WANT to run them under your philosophies as a coach. You've either got some dud players, or you've got a coach that can't put A+B+C into place. I like the idea of 4 years. Year #2 is drawing to a close. We should see improvement in #3, and contention for a conference title in #4. If not, time to look at the options and excercise one at that point.

    We need to beat Florida today...in the worst way...I just finished setting up the TV and surround sound at the new crib so that I can christen it by watching the game today at 2:00 so I hope the boys don't let me down. Beat the gators and win a couple in the conference tourney, and I think we can eek into the big dance.

    GO BILLY. GO CATS!

    This is when you start to understand where some people in this fanbase have a true understanding of basketball. Most people just want to cuss the man and give no reasons for hate, other than a losing. They would rather bash the guy than root for him to do well.

    I appreciate a level head, while we are all frustrated, you have to look at the overall picture. Here is to hoping UK has a winning record on your new entertainment center.... VMI was my first game on my big new TV, ouch.

    Pretty soon, Saturdays will be spent in the creek, no worries there.

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    Re: New coach for UK

    Dang Tim you got me on that one too. Totally forgot about Calipari's stint in the NBA.

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    Re: New coach for UK

    Quote Originally Posted by psprowler View Post
    Dang Tim you got me on that one too. Totally forgot about Calipari's stint in the NBA.
    "I'm just glad to be here, hope I can help the ball club!"
    LOL, still my favorite line from Bull Durham.

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    Re: New coach for UK

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSplitshot View Post
    That sums a lot of it up for me. I didn't expect this to be a good year, but I also didn't expect the wheels to fall off the wagon. When you have Meeks and Patterson on the floor, you should be winning more games. I know that 2 players don't make a team, but come on...

    I'm not a fan of Billy's stubborn attitude. (ie: refusing to play and zone defense)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's head games. (ie: "sending a message" to the starters in the Georgia game in the second half, but making the message last several minutes...enough to let Georgia grab a nice lead. In a game that critical, maybe a 1 minute sit and talk, but no more.)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's X-O in game adjustments, because I haven't seen enough of them. (ie: In the South Carolina loss we came out in the second half and did exactly what kept getting us stuffed in the first half...virtually no change in game plan. I guess this could also be under the stubborn heading too.)

    I'm not a fan of Billy's PR skills. (ie: The way he talks to the media, his little halftime interview smart aleck comments, his horrific post game pressers...he's representing the university to a huge national audience, the same university that the degree on my wall comes from...and there's no sense being a prick. He's uncomfortable, jittery, can't sit still, uses words like "really" and "whipped" waaaaaay too much. He reminds me of a drunk that's been off the bottle a little too long. (think "Shooter" from Hoosiers) He's standoffish and comes off condescending. Show that you're a leader, not just on the court and in practice, but when you talk to the fanbase via the media. "Coach" doesn't end when you step off the court. For what you pay these guys, they ought to be able to put together some halfway decent dialogue.

    I'm not a fan of Billy's personal antics. (I know a lot of the stuff you hear is rumor, and that's that...but we know there have been some DUIs at other schools...and some of the things I've heard from pretty reputable sources about town are not good. Definitely wouldn't post anything I didn't know to be true for sure. Again, personal life is personal life, but when you take a job that's this high profile, you're forfeiting some of it. Sorry. Ask the President about his personal life.)

    Now with ALL of that said...it might surprise you to hear me say that I don't think he ought to be set free at this point. His big strength is supposed to be recruiting and player development. Well, let's give him the time to get some of his recruits in here and work with them. Let's see what happens with that. Firing him would look horrible on the university, make it hell on getting a good new coach, and cause more problems. I have not been shown that he's a good coach yet, but this fanbase needs to have the patience to give him a fair shot. (And we absolutely don't have that patience as a whole, no doubt.) We don't have to like him all that much, but we should support our coach...because like it or not, that's what he is right now. I see this in the same way that you should never...NEVER...FRIGGIN NEVER...BOO your own kids on the court. That is absolutely classless. Bashing coach is a little more acceptable, but still.

    You can't, as a coach, go out there and make the plays yourself. You (a) teach them the plays, (b) tell them what plays to run, and (c) motivate them to WANT to run them under your philosophies as a coach. You've either got some dud players, or you've got a coach that can't put A+B+C into place. I like the idea of 4 years. Year #2 is drawing to a close. We should see improvement in #3, and contention for a conference title in #4. If not, time to look at the options and excercise one at that point.

    We need to beat Florida today...in the worst way...I just finished setting up the TV and surround sound at the new crib so that I can christen it by watching the game today at 2:00 so I hope the boys don't let me down. Beat the gators and win a couple in the conference tourney, and I think we can eek into the big dance.

    GO BILLY. GO CATS!
    Brian,
    Hope the T.V. is still on the wall! Hope the move has gone well.

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    Re: New coach for UK

    Quote Originally Posted by DJD View Post
    Brian,
    Hope the T.V. is still on the wall! Hope the move has gone well.
    The TV is not wall-mounted at the new house...thankfully...or I might have ripped it off the wall during the Florida game.

    Actually, no, I wouldn't have...the game was pretty unemotional for me, because I didn't expect us to win. It's kinda sad really. I just shook my head in disgust and ate popcorn. LOL

    The move has went remarkably well, by the way. We got the keys on Wednesday morning and are pretty well-established now. All boxes unpacked, and getting things in order. I'm absolutely worn out, but it's about done.

    Bout time to go throw some lead...

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    Re: New coach for UK

    Quote Originally Posted by mhall View Post
    Good Lord man how old do you think 64 is??? I know freaking marathon runners older than that, what are you 12???, lol.

    I'm not saying he's the first most excellent choice for the job, but saying a man can't coach at 64 yeras of age is almost insulting to the elder generation.
    by no means am i saying the man cant coach...i know 64 aint old adn i am only 24 so yeah it might seem old to me.... but i like more so what the young coaches have done to the sport then the old guys... its kinda like finesse fishing and power fishing.... older people are less inclined to get on the finesse fishing but the young folks like to do both....

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    NOW hold on you youngun, Ryan, not all of us older folks just power fish now, I am a little older than you but younger than some, so why cant an older person coach, actually I see your point, coaching is a hard job and age can hurt you. WAY TOO STRESSFUL for some. Just a word of advice remember there are some on this board reaching that age so please be good.

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    Re: New coach for UK

    Quote Originally Posted by ryan_ekubass View Post
    by no means am i saying the man cant coach...i know 64 aint old adn i am only 24 so yeah it might seem old to me.... but i like more so what the young coaches have done to the sport then the old guys... its kinda like finesse fishing and power fishing.... older people are less inclined to get on the finesse fishing but the young folks like to do both....

    Guess you need to come down here to the big lakes and give this old man some lessons on how to fish. When you get a little older and wiser you will probably look back on these days and realize the error of making such statements. I hope when you become a Fish and Wildlife officer you use a little more tact than you are using here.

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    Re: New coach for UK

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveStewart View Post
    Guess you need to come down here to the big lakes and give this old man some lessons on how to fish. When you get a little older and wiser you will probably look back on these days and realize the error of making such statements. I hope when you become a Fish and Wildlife officer you use a little more tact than you are using here.
    i dont mean old in a bad way at all.... and although i have never met ya but if kvd recommends ya i would think that u are a pretty good fisherman... i know there was an error in me making the statement that he is to old but thats really all that i meant i didnt know that people were going to take it to heart.... i like to see mhall get worked up over me calling him old anyways... i didnt mean nothing by it.... i am stuck in my way same as everyone else when i comes to fishing too i have certain lures i liek to fish adn if that dont work then i guess i aint goin to do no good that day...... when i do become an officer i will treat everyone with respect adn dignity... just like people want to be treated.... and i know that this aint no different i was just tryin to ruffle a few feathers with no harm...

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    Re: New coach for UK

    pitino is 56 or 57 I think not too much younger
    Last edited by Trophyhunter8; 03-07-2009 at 03:57 AM. Reason: typed wrong number

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