Jason, I guess it's going to be hard to teach this old dog new tricks. It seems I'm just not comfortable using them with the size bait I use. I purchased some 9\0 circles, and after seeing them thinking , kinda like in Roadhouse after meeting swazye (spell) I thought they would be bigger, but to my surprise nothing compared to my 9 and 10\0 true turn hooks.. I don't even think I tried them...I might try to devote a day to them while I'm using big chunks of cutbait right now for wintering catfish but...I'm still an old dog...good thread made me think.. Chuck



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