Pacquaio vs. Hatton (boxing)

[psprowler]

Uh forget what I said earlier Manny does make it look easy.

Aside - I watched the famous Tyson/Buster Douglas fight on ESPN2 last night. When Tyson knocked him down at the end of the 8th round, was Douglas really up by the 10 count? I wasn't on my "tivo" TV so I couldn't rewind. It looks like Tyson got up at about the same point in the count when he got knocked down in the 10th - though he was clearly out of it. If the ref had concluded the 10 count on Buster would Tyson be the shell of his old self that he is today?

[Tim_T]

Uh forget what I said earlier Manny does make it look easy.

Aside - I watched the famous Tyson/Buster Douglas fight on ESPN2 last night. When Tyson knocked him down at the end of the 8th round, was Douglas really up by the 10 count? I wasn't on my "tivo" TV so I couldn't rewind. It looks like Tyson got up at about the same point in the count when he got knocked down in the 10th - though he was clearly out of it. If the ref had concluded the 10 count on Buster would Tyson be the shell of his old self that he is today?

The official rule is that when a knockdown occurs, the ringside time keeper starts the count then the referee picks up the count from him. It is not always an actual ten seconds, it is when the referees count reaches ten.

As for the last part of your question, Mike was on a down hill slide before the Douglas fight, which began when he fired Kevin Rooney. Rooney was Tyson's trainer through the latter part of his amateur career and most of his pro career. He kept Mike in line for the most part and he taqught the head movement and combination punching that made Mike so lethal. Once Rooney was gone, Tyson's fighting style was not the same and he abandoned the head movement and combination punching and began walking straight in looking for a knockout punch.

Speaking of the Tyson/Douglas fight...I( was at the funeral home earlier today to see Greg Page. Greg was in Tokyo working as a sparring partner for Mike for the Douglas fight and he dropped Tyson in training before the fight and it was big news on the HBO telecast that night. On another note, Louisville's James Pritchard was also in Tokyo as a sparring partner for Buster Douglas.

[psprowler]

Yeah I took note when they mentioned that Page had put him down then they said he might be a future opponent down the road.

As far as the count goes it seemed like Buster was getting up and was still on his way up after 9 but then the ref never said 10. It's like he could have said 10, declared the fight over, and no one would have disputed. But that was just me watching it in real time from the comfort of the bed. That's the first time I had ever watched that fight in its entirety.

[Devils Horse]

I do love the UFC now. I wish Chuck could get back but I think age has now become a factor. I'd give a hundred dollars to see him bust a bone in Quinten Rampage's face on a knock out.

Don and Mark, I love the UFC too. The baddest guy yet is Anderson Silva. Yesterday I watched the old fight where he took the belt from Rich Franklin in the first round. Got his hands around Rich's head and rendered him unconcious with a vicious barage of knees. It was hard to watch. Dude has a freakishly long body, and uses it as whatever weapon is necessary to overcome his opponent in a violent fashion. I think his next fight is a rematch with Forest Griffin this summer. I like Forest a ton, and hope I'm wrong, but the best he'll do is maybe give the spider a good fight.

[pontooner]

Don and Mark, I love the UFC too. The baddest guy yet is Anderson Silva. Yesterday I watched the old fight where he took the belt from Rich Franklin in the first round. Got his hands around Rich's head and rendered him unconcious with a vicious barage of knees. It was hard to watch. Dude has a freakishly long body, and uses it as whatever weapon is necessary to overcome his opponent in a violent fashion. I think his next fight is a rematch with Forest Griffin this summer. I like Forest a ton, and hope I'm wrong, but the best he'll do is maybe give the spider a good fight.

Forest is insane, of course you need to be a little crazy to do what these guys do but a story Forest told has always stuck out in my mind.

When he was a kid he wanted to be able to palm a basketball and his hands were just not big enough so he started cutting the webbing between his fingers to try and make it work. OUCH!!!!!!!!!

Never heard if it actually worked or not but that is one crazy experiment .

[DJD]

Forest is insane, of course you need to be a little crazy to do what these guys do but a story Forest told has always stuck out in my mind.

When he was a kid he wanted to be able to palm a basketball and his hands were just not big enough so he started cutting the webbing between his fingers to try and make it work. OUCH!!!!!!!!!

Never heard if it actually worked or not but that is one crazy experiment .

Man if he really did that to the degree I'm thinking then he is troubled for sure!

Jim,
Your right Anderson Silva is one tough cookie. That Muay Thai Clinch in a taller longer body is deadly. Who can beat this guy? I watched that Franklin/Silva fight again yesterday as well and Franklin had a look of confusion in his eyes after the knees to the body and a few to the face.

[Devils Horse]

Forest is insane, of course you need to be a little crazy to do what these guys do but a story Forest told has always stuck out in my mind.

When he was a kid he wanted to be able to palm a basketball and his hands were just not big enough so he started cutting the webbing between his fingers to try and make it work. OUCH!!!!!!!!!

Never heard if it actually worked or not but that is one crazy experiment .

Ouch would be correct, but those guys march to a different tune.

My wife was doing some paperwork in the LR last night when I came in and turned on the Fisher/Stone fight. It was a stand up slugfest start to finish, and an excellent contest.

Wife after round one: "That's awful. Why would 2 people hit each other like that?"
Me: "They get paid to see who can beat who."
Wife: "Crazy. How can you watch this stuff?"
Me: "With my eyes."

After the last round horn the cut up, beat up men abruptly stopped hammering away and hugged each other.

Wife: "They hug after beating the crap out of each other?"
Me: "Mutual respect."
Wife rolling her eyes: "That's stupid, it doesn't make any sense."
Me: "One time a guy hugged me and kissed me on the cheek after we fought in a parking lot."
Wife: "Why?"
Me: "Respect."
Wife: "No! Why'd the two of you fight?"
Me: "No real good reason come to think of it."

She looks at me like an interesting but failed lab experiment, and shakes her head. I give her the dog staring at a fan look I use when confronted with female logic.

[mhall]

Ouch would be correct, but those guys march to a different tune.

My wife was doing some paperwork in the LR last night when I came in and turned on the Fisher/Stone fight. It was a stand up slugfest start to finish, and an excellent contest.

Wife after round one: "That's awful. Why would 2 people hit each other like that?"
Me: "They get paid to see who can beat who."
Wife: "Crazy. How can you watch this stuff?"
Me: "With my eyes."

After the last round horn the cut up, beat up men abruptly stopped hammering away and hugged each other.

Wife: "They hug after beating the crap out of each other?"
Me: "Mutual respect."
Wife rolling her eyes: "That's stupid, it doesn't make any sense."
Me: "One time a guy hugged me and kissed me on the cheek after we fought in a parking lot."
Wife: "Why?"
Me: "Respect."
Wife: "No! Why'd the two of you fight?"
Me: "No real good reason come to think of it."

She looks at me like an interesting but failed lab experiment, and shakes her head. I give her the dog staring at a fan look I use when confronted with female logic.

Priceless post Jim, lol. Females don't get it and I don't expect them to. Nowhere I can think of in any sport, ''And yes it is a sport'', do the participants show more admiration and respect for each other than in the Mixed Martial Arts and especially the UFC. Yes, they talk some beat down trash before they fight, they are suppose to it's called the ''Build Up'', that's what the promoters and the fans want, it makes it fun. Then when it's over, respect is given from both sides, Dana demands it and they know it.