Question for Bassin Bug

[RoadToad]

This is a very interesting subject. I always knew this was based on some upcoming astronomical event, but didn't really know what it was until I did the same Google search, but with the word "astronomy" added. This site here gives a good, understandable explanation of what's going to happen on that date, in astronomical terms:
http://www.planetpapp.com/br21december2012/

To sum it up, in that year, the point in the sky where the sun appears to rise on the winter solstice will intersect the "plane of the ecliptic." The site explains what that is better than I could, but it's basically the track of the planets and the Moon. It's the end of a cycle that lasts about 26,000 years, and represents the passing from the Age of Pisces into the Age of Aquarius (cue the Fifth Dimension!). Personally, I don't think there's going to be any great cataclysm, or apocalypse, or whatever word you want to put on it, on that particular date. If you want to get all mystical about it, well then I guess you could say that on that date we will pass into an age during which the world as we know it will end. Given that that age will last another 26,000 years, I don't think it takes a prophet to predict that.

There was one statement made on the website you referenced that I think is pretty far-fetched. In the part about the pole shift, he says, "In 2012 the next polar reversal will take place on earth. This means that the North Pole will be changed into the South Pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, together with a huge disaster of unknown proportions."
http://www.december212012.com/articl...ft/index.shtml

Give me a break! The Earth's rotations is going so suddenly reverse? Why? It's rotated in the same direction for billions of years. What is going to happen in 2012 that's going to reverse it? Nope, I ain't buyin' it! The Earth's magnetic field is controlled mostly by the Sun. Yes, it's moving, in fact it's position can vary quite a bit day to day. If you're interested, here's a web site devoted to just that subject:
http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/nmp/daily_mvt_nmp_e.php
But there's NO evidence that I could find that there's going to be some sudden shift on that day. I'm sorry, but I think that his statement is ridiculous, and if he's going to state hogwash like that as fact, then I would tend to doubt anything he says.

To answer your major question, "How can you reconcile belief in this date as the "end of the world" with Revelations," I don't think you can. I think that belief in this phenomenon, just like any superstition, is inconsistent with a Christian world view. Just one man's opinion.

[Grumpy]

RoadToad, thanks for your input and additional information. I just passed over the scientific parts in my write up as just one more source predicting the end of time. . Did you watch the videos from the History Channel? They cite at least 10 different entities that have predicted the end of time at December 21, 2012. Some of those entities, like the English Orachles and the American Indians have two or more different entities making the prediction. It is interesting that so many different seers have come up with the same date.

BTW, what you stated (and answered) as my question was not what I asked. Go back and read the paragraph that starts with "The video even talks about Revelations. . . " Then read my questions again.

[Grumpy]

Roadtoad, I just reread you post and I guess you really did answer my question, I am the one that mis-read what you said. However, I don't think that the Mayan belief in their extremely accurate calandar or that of several of the other predicters were any more superstition than the Christain world view and its believe in the Bible is superstition. Each believed in the validity of thier prophacies.

[Bobby Headrick]

Does it not say in Revelations that "firs and brimstone" would rain down from the Heavens. So if the Myans, bible,and all the other soothsayers are correct could it not be either a vocanic eruption, the one at Yellowstone is overdue, or it could be a comet or something from space that could strike the earth, if I am correct I think some comet or asteriod or something is supposed to come close to earth that year. They all could have predicted what they witnessed as Pompi got rain on with fire/brimstone. So they could be correct in predicting a natural cycle that affects all earth. Just have to wait and see and stock up on ammo/food/water etc.

[Grumpy]

Bobby, the reason I asked the question(s) is because if my understanding of Revelations is correct, there are several things that must happen over at least 14 years before the End of Time can come. And, as as said above, one of the major requirements is that the Jews rebuild their Temple on Mount Moriah, which is now occupied by the Muslim temple. I don't see how the time line in Revelations can be accomplisted before December 21, 2012. That is not to say that some of the things you mention couldn't happen, it just is not necessarily the end.

Grumpy

[Bobby Headrick]

TRUE GRUMP TRUE. There could be something else, the Mayan's do not actually predict that 12/21/2012 is the end just that something major is going to happen that will bring change. Nature is always changing and remember all great nations have all fallen as nothing lasts forever and change is inevitable.

[GeoFisher]

Who gives a crap....................I will be at Dale Hollow STICKING smallies..........

Later,

Geo