Obama is a LIGHTWEIGHT

[GeoFisher]

Agree with Andrew, you're missing the target on this one Geo. Last thing we need is to slap that tar baby.

Well........I know when China did the same thing a few decades ago......the WORLD denounced it......the WHOLE WORLD.

I guess in this case, Great Brittian, and Germany can say something, but we can't??

A simple statement from the gubment about FREEDOM is all that is needed.

AND again......who do you suppose the IRANIAN people want to see this.....ALL the signs that you see on the news, are written in ENGLISH, not French, not GERMAN, not ARABIC......not Spanish......ENGLISH.

They are reaching out..........This is probably the BEST time in nearly 30 years to reach out and ENGAGE, and instead we sit on the sidelines.

HM.

And BTW..........this is a FAR CRY from my normal call to turn the whole **** area to glass

I'm getting soft in my old age.

Later,

Geo

[apb]

There have been several comments from Obama on the election and allowing people to have a dissenting opinion and refraining from violence. Yes, I am sure there are people over there who would like to see the US and Europe involved in some capacity. Conversely, notice how the current regime is blaming the protests on US meddling? That is just an excuse that they'll use to authorize a crack down. Right now they look foolish by claiming the US is meddling as there is no evidence. Best not to give them any real evidence.

It’s not a simple, cut and dry issue. I certainly agree that the opposition party MIGHT be a little easier to deal with than their current administration. However, there is no guarantee. Remember, it's the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of Iran. That part will not be changing. The only potential change is that the opposition may not hate us as much as the hardliners who are currently in power. If we stay on the side lines, once the dust settles there MIGHT be a chance for diplomacy. If we stick our necks in there right now, we run the risk of reliving history with the Shah (that’s part of the root of the current problems).

Andrew

[GeoFisher]

I heard an interview yesterday that Israel actually thinks the opposition dude might be worse than AmadinaNUTJOB.........

Maybe my original though of turning the entire region to glass isn't such a bad idea....

HM........

Later,

Geo

[Devils Horse]

There have been several comments from Obama on the election and allowing people to have a dissenting opinion and refraining from violence. Yes, I am sure there are people over there who would like to see the US and Europe involved in some capacity. Conversely, notice how the current regime is blaming the protests on US meddling? That is just an excuse that they'll use to authorize a crack down. Right now they look foolish by claiming the US is meddling as there is no evidence. Best not to give them any real evidence.

It’s not a simple, cut and dry issue. I certainly agree that the opposition party MIGHT be a little easier to deal with than their current administration. However, there is no guarantee. Remember, it's the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC of Iran. That part will not be changing. The only potential change is that the opposition may not hate us as much as the hardliners who are currently in power. If we stay on the side lines, once the dust settles there MIGHT be a chance for diplomacy. If we stick our necks in there right now, we run the risk of reliving history with the Shah (that’s part of the root of the current problems).

Andrew

Basically I agree with your sentiments, but the Shah was ousted over 30 years ago and I don't think that's got much to do with the current problems. Now your statement about them being the Islamic Republic of Iran is another story. Long as a culture believes there's a bus load of virgins waiting in the afterlife for every suicide bomber, they're going to create problems for the rest of the world.

[apb]

DH, Basically a trust thing. Iran remembers the US backing the Shah and didn't like how that turned out. Like many countries over there, they want their own leaders not someone who is a puppet of the US. Can't really blame them.

Andrew