well i agree with both Dave and Warren,when i was guideing it was understood that I`d give them a full 8 hours for my work,,,but it`s different on the Ohio River then Ky lake and Cumberland River. We`d catch fish,the bigger the better then after they was happy,I`d do a river 101 and give them some teaching for them when they go to another river,,,,now when i did Cumberland,,,striper till they stopped,,,then smallies,,,,a good shore lunch,,,and did what the customers wanted,,,,gave them a good 8 hours,,which i had as much fun as they did...but that was just me....