World record bass caught

[JD7.62]

In a country such as Japan where keeping fish is more popular then keeping dogs, its a shame they couldnt keep it alive (now I know not EVERY one there knows alot about fish keeping, Im just saying). Too bad, that fish would be AWESOME to see swimming in a giant aquarium.

[smljaw]

Bullmerc's post doesn't make any sense to me either... Anyway, this big toad was caught on a large body of water. It's not like it was a pet fish raised in a pond or something. IMO, this new potential record appears much more legit than the 25 pound snagged bass caught in CA a few years ago.

[bullmerc]

Let's put my argument in prospective. Say your kid is a very talented 11 year old who dominates his age group in baseball. He set several records in his age group and recieved trophies and placques to acknowledge his accomplishments. You as a parent are very proud of your kids achievements.
Next year a kid moves into the area and completely wipes out all your kids records. The new kid is supposed to be the same age as your kid was but he shows all the signs of being much older by having a full beard and other signs of maturity. The athletic association doesn't challenge this new kids credentials showing him to be 11 years old and allows him to be entered into the record books and taking your kids name out. Would this be fair to your kid?????????????????????????????

By manipulating a species, whether with intent to break a record or not, should dis-allow the speciman in question. Records are important to us because of the difficulty in the achievement. When new records are allowed where some form of manipulation is concerned this belittles the entire records program.

Florida strain bass introduced into Texas, California or Japan waters is species manipulation and any such fish should not be allowed to be entered as offical records.

[Webby709]

Let's put my argument in prospective. Say your kid is a very talented 11 year old who dominates his age group in baseball. He set several records in his age group and recieved trophies and placques to acknowledge his accomplishments. You as a parent are very proud of your kids achievements.
Next year a kid moves into the area and completely wipes out all your kids records. The new kid is supposed to be the same age as your kid was but he shows all the signs of being much older by having a full beard and other signs of maturity. The athletic association doesn't challenge this new kids credentials showing him to be 11 years old and allows him to be entered into the record books and taking your kids name out. Would this be fair to your kid?????????????????????????????

By manipulating a species, whether with intent to break a record or not, should dis-allow the speciman in question. Records are important to us because of the difficulty in the achievement. When new records are allowed where some form of manipulation is concerned this belittles the entire records program.

Florida strain bass introduced into Texas, California or Japan waters is species manipulation and any such fish should not be allowed to be entered as offical records.

You aren't comparing apples to apples. The analogy you are using has nothing to do with this Bass or how it became what it was or how the guy caught it.

[JD7.62]

Would a record count if it was caught in Florida in a lake that was managed by the state to maintain a healthy sport fish population? By the way you are trying to define "species manipulation" that shouldnt count either right?

[MASBASS]

I have a silly question, if the bass should not be counted because it was a transplant (in easier terms brought into an area that it is not native too) then what about a world record caught in say Cal or Texas? If I remember correctly both states transplanted the Florida strain Largemouth bass years ago to try and grow a world class fish. If that is so then they should not be able to count a world class fish unless it is tested to be a native strain because they have been tranplanted and introduced (enhanced) into an envirment that gives them the edge. Kind of a double edge sword there be careful.

[bullmerc]

Mass Introduction of Florida Bass Micropterus floridanus into Lake Biwa, Japan, Suggested by Recent Dramatic Genomic Change

Accession number;05A0637502Title;Mass Introduction of Florida Bass Micropterus floridanus into Lake Biwa, Japan, Suggested by Recent Dramatic Genomic ChangeAuthor;YOKOGAWA KOJI NAKAI KATSUKI(Lake Biwa Museum) FUJITA KENTAROU(Univ. Shiga Prefecture, Shiga, Jpn) Journal Title;Suisan Zoshoku
Journal Code:Y0285A
ISSN:0371-4217
VOL.53;NO.2;PAGE.145-155(2005) Figure&Table&Reference;FIG.4, TBL.4, REF.46Pub. Country;JapanLanguage;EnglishAbstract;The introduction of Florida bass Micropterus floridanus into Lake Biwa, where largemouth bass M. salmoides from North America had been propagating, was recognized. Isozymes of 194 individuals from four coastal localities in Lake Biwa from 2000 to 2003 were examined for comparison with former samples collected in the 1990s. M. salmoides and M. floridanus were genetically identified with the diagnostically polymorphic loci of AAT-1, IDHP-1, MDH-1, and SOD. Alleles symbolized M. floridanus frequently appeared at all of the loci among the individuals examined; in general, about half of the total had those alleles. All of the sample lots fitted the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium for each polymorphic locus, and most of them showed an excess of heterozygotes. Based on the genotypes at the diagnostic loci, most individuals were identified as F2 hybrids, backcross or higher-generation offspring, indicating that the hybridization between M. salmoides and M. floridanus has already progressed considerably in Lake Biwa. Considering the predominance of M. salmoides in Lake Biwa in the 1990s, the present results indicate the possibility that mass introduction of M. floridanus was carried out on a large scale so as to greatly influence the genetic characteristics of the M. salmoides population.

[JD7.62]

Mass Introduction of Florida Bass Micropterus floridanus into Lake Biwa, Japan, Suggested by Recent Dramatic Genomic Change

Accession number;05A0637502Title;Mass Introduction of Florida Bass Micropterus floridanus into Lake Biwa, Japan, Suggested by Recent Dramatic Genomic ChangeAuthor;YOKOGAWA KOJI NAKAI KATSUKI(Lake Biwa Museum) FUJITA KENTAROU(Univ. Shiga Prefecture, Shiga, Jpn) Journal Title;Suisan Zoshoku
Journal Code:Y0285A
ISSN:0371-4217
VOL.53;NO.2;PAGE.145-155(2005) Figure&Table&Reference;FIG.4, TBL.4, REF.46Pub. Country;JapanLanguage;EnglishAbstract;The introduction of Florida bass Micropterus floridanus into Lake Biwa, where largemouth bass M. salmoides from North America had been propagating, was recognized. Isozymes of 194 individuals from four coastal localities in Lake Biwa from 2000 to 2003 were examined for comparison with former samples collected in the 1990s. M. salmoides and M. floridanus were genetically identified with the diagnostically polymorphic loci of AAT-1, IDHP-1, MDH-1, and SOD. Alleles symbolized M. floridanus frequently appeared at all of the loci among the individuals examined; in general, about half of the total had those alleles. All of the sample lots fitted the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium for each polymorphic locus, and most of them showed an excess of heterozygotes. Based on the genotypes at the diagnostic loci, most individuals were identified as F2 hybrids, backcross or higher-generation offspring, indicating that the hybridization between M. salmoides and M. floridanus has already progressed considerably in Lake Biwa. Considering the predominance of M. salmoides in Lake Biwa in the 1990s, the present results indicate the possibility that mass introduction of M. floridanus was carried out on a large scale so as to greatly influence the genetic characteristics of the M. salmoides population.

So what? All that means is that FL strain and regular LMB have been hybridizing for about three generations, roughly 6-9 years at the time of the study.
No different then any other bass caught from the South East to Texas to California.

Besides, IFGA does not distinguish between M. salmoides and M. floridanus so its a moot point. The people in the area wanted bigger fish, just like the people who manage every lake in this country want bigger fish. Bigger fish = more fishermen = more money spent in local economy = more local jobs = more local taxes = more money in the pockets of the people that manage the body of water.

[bullmerc]

(1) Biological Laboratory, Faculty of Education, Nagasaki University, 1-14 Bunkyo-Machi, Nagasaki, 852-8521, Japan(2) Kyushu Bunka Gakuen Senior High School, 1-8 Yatake-Machi, Sasebo, 857-0047, Japan

Abstract Little is known about the ecology of largemouth bass, Micropterus salmoides in non-native environments. The stomach contents of a total of 381 bass ranging from 21 to 283 mm TL in a small lake in Japan were examined monthly from April to November 1992 by the http://www.springerlink.com/content/...xlarge8216.gifpointshttp://www.springerlink.com/content/...xlarge8217.gif method. The proportion of bass with empty stomachs increased in larger fish. The principal foods of the bass regardless of size consisted of two numerically dominant gobiids, the trident goby, Tridentiger obscurus, and paradise goby, Rhinogobius giurinus. The young-of-the-year (YOY) bass fed exclusively and selectively on the abundant young of paradise goby. As they grew, the bass also consumed fewer but larger trident goby. Bass of all sizes preferred these gobies from spring to autumn when several successive gobiid cohorts recruited from offshore and settled inshore. In contrast, YOY bluegill, Lepomis macrochirus, of 10-20 mm TL were selected only during summer. Bass switched from zooplanktivory to piscivory at 30-40 mm TL, much smaller than previously reported in their native range. Presumably because of the high availability and vulnerability of the gobies, the bass became piscivorous earlier and grew quickly. The gobies also allowed the bluegill to largely escape predation risk from the bass.

[bullmerc]

http://www.waterencyclopedia.com/Oc-...e-Species.html

[bullmerc]

https://www.ideals.uiuc.edu/bitstrea...pdf?sequence=2

[JD7.62]

You can Google, congrats. However, hardly any of this comes close to even proving your reasoning why a bass caught in Japan shouldnt qualify as a world record.