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So you were also on here slamming the last guy for his spend and borrowing for the 8 years too, right? After all, your kids and grand kids are paying for those blunders. I seem to recall the current economic mess starting under the last administration. So, remind me again what their plan was? Oh yeah, thats right, do nothing so the next guy can take the heat. Brillant plan! Last time we tried that was Hoover. You might remember reading about the great depression in history class.
Some of Bush's spending was HORRIBLE.......some was not. Military action in IRAQ and Afghanistan, if you ask me was a REQUIREMENT. The largest health care expenditures to date on Pharmacy RX......BAD IDEA......but nothing like what Obama is proposing.

Bush did a few things wrong, and a LOT of THINGS RIGHT.....so far, Obama has done a LOT wrong, and few, if any things right.....

Yea Andy.....go back and read history a little.....FDR didn't help things.....he prolonged the depression by oh say.........10 YEARS. Lots of reasons there, and LOTS of our EXISTING problems were developed out of NEW DEAL mentality.

AND the current financial crisis was STARTED by Democrats......FUNDED by DEMOCRATS, and reFUNDED by DEMOCRATS....Lets not forget about the CRA....that is the piece of CRAP legislation that started the ball rolling for people making minimum wage to purchase an $80,000 piece of property....NOTHING ELSE.

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Kind of early to be critizing for the damage done don't you think? It will be a while before we know the outcome of these desisions. Hell, it will be a while before we can fully know the outcome of desisions the last two administrations made. I do know that my 401K was tanking for 3 quarters straight. The last quarter, it reversed a lot of that. Job losses are slowing, housing market improving. Signs that we are pulling out of the recession?
Glad your 401K is rebounding........NO ONE ELSE's IS........

AND I don't mind spending programs when the program is DEFINED, and FUNDED. The plans on the table are not defined, and NOT FUNDED.

Bush used 1/2 of the TARP approved money....got it out to people QUICKLY....and those banks that were part of the original round of TARP, which I HATE by the WAY......have paid some of it back.

Obama........well....he's DONE NOTHING........except create a Car CZAR, fire a CAR CZAR, Buy an Auto company, buy ANOTHER AUTO COMPANY......FIRE a Auto Company CEO.....by a few BANKS.....and some other REALLY CRAZY CRAP.

AND don't KID YOURSELF....the last quarter NOTHING reversed itself.......markets are still down, and are bouncing more than EVER.......MORE THAN EVER.....meaning lots if indecision in the market....hardly a stabilization.

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Do I agree with everything that has been done over the last six months, no, but I am willing to give them the chance to fix things and head us in the right direction. Don't like how things are going, vote out the dems in the mid-term elections. In some respects, it might not be a bad idea anyway. Have a dem Pres and a repub congress. Make the crooks work together and keep each other in check.
How can you measure success when there are no plans for ANY of the programs he wants to JAM down our throats.

Health CARE hearings the EXACT TIME the SENATE confirmation hearings are going on.....GREAT TRANSPARENCY.

Obama is trying to get as much stuff passed right now, because after 3rd quarter earnings come out, and congress leaves for their summer recess.......NOTHING ELSE.....EVER from this admin will be passed, and he knows it.......

Obama numbers are slipping REALLY HARD right now........

We had a mixed bag for the previous 2 years.........Don't forget Pelosi and her bag of loons have been in office for 2 years.....they won the HOUSE and the SENATE 2 years ago....and they accomplished NOTHING in 2 YEARS.......FANTASTIC.

Yes, lets make the CROOKS work together..........and they are all crooks......only which ones to you trust more...

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You want real change? How about this. Change the tax laws to a flat percentage of income. No loop holes. Everyone pays the same percentage (10%, 15%, whatever). Having to spend several hours to figure out taxes, use a computer program or hire an accountant is ridiculous. Welfare, sure, but its only a fall back for short periods to get someone through a crisis or tough spot. Sure, society owes some folks (a parent dies in the military we as a society have an obiligation to assist in raising their kids, for example). Set it up so you pay into a fund. You can only take out what you put in. If you take none out by the time you retire, you have an extra retirement plan. Line item veto (yeah, I know, they fumbled something like that under Clinton). President can veto the pork out of a bill. Congress doesn't like it, they can over ride each pork project. Easier to keep them accountable that way. Term limits, NOW! I really doubt that our founding fathers intended people to spend 30-40 years in congress.
I have not problems with this....... actually more like I think anyways.


Have FUN.

Later,

Geo