Okay Andrew weighed in. Pretty weak...falling back on the ole 'hey Obama ain't MY guy' and 'it'll go thru some revisions' soft shoe, but he's off the hook. After all who can defend the indefensible? Some good points Andrew, "read the bill"..."not rushed and forced"..."500+ billion". Careful, you're starting to sound like a right wing wacko mob member.

Pontooner? Stratosjoe? Anyone?

Heeeelloooooo?

The whole government provided health care/insurance concept absolutely bites, and it seems we all know it.