Finally went to tville this past saturday and stunk it up. Had 1 keeper and 4 nubs. Bites were few and far between for me. went against my own theory and fished shallow thinking the cooler weather had them up close... WRONG! Went back to 20-30 ft deep to find them but not the quality I'm used to catching there. Hope this is not a trend there. Nobody I talked to had any keepers, a few had some squeelers like me, a few had none. It should really come to life in a few weeks.. I hope.