any ideas from the older and wiser

[the_donger]

Maybe use something with a rattle in it to wake them up. Smack the water with a paddle.

[raincheck]

Wacky flick shake something they never seen.Terry Adolph

[kygorski]

Ever hear of buck perry? When everything else fails, speed helps, its a response action.In some cases where you make bottom contact with your crank bait, point your rod at the bait, keep reeling fast and then while reeling sweep your rod fast.Used to be a "spoon plugger"and sometimes was amazed at the speed we trolled at during the dawg days.

[brlfishing]

Ever hear of buck perry? When everything else fails, speed helps, its a response action.In some cases where you make bottom contact with your crank bait, point your rod at the bait, keep reeling fast and then while reeling sweep your rod fast.Used to be a "spoon plugger"and sometimes was amazed at the speed we trolled at during the dawg days.

never thought of that, but i wish i would have tried it. thanks for the info, and i will definatly use it when i am in that situation again. info and ideas passed down from more seasoned anglers is what keeps this sport alive. so thank you.